What shape would produce the greatest electric field?

In summary, the conversation discusses the concept of maximizing the electric field at a given point in space through the use of different shapes and surfaces. It is noted that the largest field concentration occurs at a sharp tip, while a flat or spherical surface would minimize the electric field. The conversation also brings up the question of whether this applies to conducting materials or only insulators, as well as the presence of a discharge in the latter. The use of a Van de Graaff generator is mentioned as a demonstration of this concept. Finally, a reference paper is mentioned as a helpful resource for understanding the answer to this problem.
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Helmholtz
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Suppose you are given an incompressible material with a constant charge density. What shape would create the largest electric field at a given point in space? These seems like a calculus of variation problem, but I am wondering if there might be any clever trick.

$$\vec E = \frac{\rho}{4 \pi \epsilon_0} \iiint \frac{\hat r}{r^2}dx' dy' dz'$$
 
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The largest field concentration occurs at the pointy end ... and is minimized by flat or spherical surfaces.
Thus inside any high voltage device a very sharp tip is used for emission, and mirror polished smooth surfaces are used wherever emission is not desired. Knowing the answer, you can now look for clever tricks.
 
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UltrafastPED said:
The largest field concentration occurs at the pointy end ... and is minimized by flat or spherical surfaces.
Isn't this for conducting materials, where the charges can move? For "constant charge density" the problem seems similar to this problem about maximizing the gravitational field with a constant mass density object:

http://pages.physics.cornell.edu/~aalemi/random/planet.pdf
 
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A.T. said:
Isn't this for conducting materials, where the charges can move? For "constant charge density" the problem seems similar to this problem about maximizing the gravitational field with a constant mass density object:

http://pages.physics.cornell.edu/~aalemi/random/planet.pdf

Brush discharge from an insulator increases with angularity ... a sharp tip (eg, a crack or edge) will generate a discharge long before a nice smooth surface. You can see this in action if you have a Van de Graaff generator handy.
 
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UltrafastPED said:
Brush discharge from an insulator...
If there can be a discharge, it means that charges can move. So how can you be sure there is constant charge density, as the OP states?
 
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Thank you for the reference paper, I found that to be a great help. I believe I now understand what the answer is, as derived in the paper.
 

Related to What shape would produce the greatest electric field?

1. What is an electric field?

An electric field is a force field that surrounds an electrically charged object. It is created by the presence of a charged object and is responsible for the attraction or repulsion of other charged objects within its vicinity.

2. How is the strength of an electric field measured?

The strength of an electric field is measured in units of volts per meter (V/m). This measures the amount of energy per unit charge that is exerted by the field on a test charge. The higher the voltage, the stronger the electric field.

3. What factors affect the strength of an electric field?

The strength of an electric field is affected by the magnitude of the charge creating the field, as well as the distance from the charged object. The strength also depends on the medium through which the electric field is passing, as different materials can affect the electric field differently.

4. How do different shapes affect the electric field?

The shape of an object can affect the distribution of charge and therefore, the shape can also affect the strength of the electric field. For example, a pointed object will have a stronger electric field at its tip compared to a rounded object of the same size.

5. Which shape would produce the greatest electric field?

The shape that would produce the greatest electric field would depend on the specific scenario. However, in general, objects with sharp points or edges tend to produce stronger electric fields compared to rounded objects. This is because the charge is concentrated at the sharp points, leading to a higher electric field strength.

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