Why are Kramers-Kroning relations useful?

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In summary, the Kramers-Kronig relations allow one to calculate the real part of the permitivity knowing the imaginary part or vice versa. They are useful for calculating dispersion (dn/dw) characteristics near an absorption peak.
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The Kramers-Kronig relations allows one to calculate the real part of the permitivity knowing the imaginary part or vice-versa:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kramers-Kronig_relations

But in what situation will one know either the imginary part but not the real part or the real part but not the imaginary part of the permitivity?
 
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KK relations are useful for calculating dispersion (dn/dw) characteristics near an absorption peak.

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Cool. So, you measure the absorption experimentally and use the KK integral for [itex]n(\omega)[/itex] in terms of [itex]\alpha(\omega)[/itex].

In my EM class, we only saw the KK relations for the permitivity. It would be strange that we stopped there if their only usefulness was to derive the KK relation for [itex]n(\omega)[/itex]. I'm putting this on my list of question I have to bug the EM proffessor with.P.S. Why would one want to calculate dn/dw? What does this tell you about what? It gives the "speed" at which the ratio of c to the phase velocity is changind as frequency changes, but why is that important?
 
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I guess the reason of the KK relation makes its importance: causality.

I may be wrong, but I think that the Landau damping in plasma physics might be a nice example.
The Landau damping is a collisionless damping of plasma waves that needs to take causality into account in its derivation. Therefore it must have the same origin as the Kramers-Kronig relations, and of course it illustrates it anyway.

Michel
 
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One of the most common application of Kramers-Kronig transform is in optical conductivity. Often, you cannot obtain the optical conductivity in a material because a particular frequency of light attenuates rather quickly when it enters a material, such as a conductor. Still, one can obtain the optical conductivity from the reflectivity data. One takes the reflectivity data as a function of frequency and do a KK-transformation to obtain the conductivity.

The couple of caveats here are that one has to assume that the sum-rule is obeyed, and that in many instances, the simplest, solvable model requires that the Drude model be valid.

Zz.
 
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quasar987 said:
P.S. Why would one want to calculate dn/dw? What does this tell you about what? It gives the "speed" at which the ratio of c to the phase velocity is changind as frequency changes, but why is that important?

Imagine you have two frequencies close together, then knowing dn/dw will tell you how spread out in time and space the two frequencies will be after propagating a certain distance. Essentially, knowing dn/dw will tell you how 'smeared out' your pulse of light will be after propagation. This is particularly important to know in a laser gain medium for instance, where the whole idea is to operate near an absorption band.

And of course, the inverse, dw/dn is related to the group velocity, which is always handy to know.

Claude.
 
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If there's a whole book on them, they must not be completely useless!
 

Related to Why are Kramers-Kroning relations useful?

What are Kramers-Kroning relations?

Kramers-Kroning relations, also known as dispersion relations, are mathematical equations that relate the real and imaginary parts of a complex function. They were first proposed by Hendrik Kramers and Ralph Kronig in 1926 and have since been used in various fields of physics and mathematics.

Why are Kramers-Kroning relations important?

Kramers-Kroning relations are important because they provide a way to calculate the real part of a complex function using only the imaginary part and vice versa. This is particularly useful in situations where one part of a function is known or can be measured, but the other part is not readily available.

How are Kramers-Kroning relations useful in physics?

In physics, Kramers-Kroning relations are used to study the behavior of materials and particles. They have been applied in various fields such as quantum mechanics, electrodynamics, and condensed matter physics. For example, they can be used to analyze the optical properties of materials or to study the dispersion of waves.

What are some practical applications of Kramers-Kroning relations?

Kramers-Kroning relations have practical applications in many areas, including signal processing, spectroscopy, and engineering. They are often used to analyze and filter signals, such as in audio or image processing. They can also be applied in the design of electronic circuits and devices.

Are there any limitations to Kramers-Kroning relations?

While Kramers-Kroning relations are powerful tools, they do have limitations. They are based on certain assumptions, such as the function being analytic, and may not be applicable to all systems. Additionally, they may only provide an approximation of the real and imaginary parts of a function, and the accuracy of the results may depend on the complexity of the function.

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