Why Did the 1983 Conference Reject Defining c=3x10^8 or 1 m/s?

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In summary: People at the 1983 General Conference on Weights and Measures were looking to simplify matters by defining the speed of light to be 3x10^8 m/s exactly, but they rejected the idea because it would have created too many problems with manufacturing and measuring.
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In redefining the meter in terms of the speed of light, why did not the delegates to the 1983 General Conference on Weights and Measures simplify matters by defining the speed of light to be 3x10^8 m/s exactly? For that matter, why did they not define it to be 1 m/s exactly? Were both of these possibilities open to them? If so, why did they reject them?

Solution (so far):

In the words of my text:

"The meter is the length of the path traveled by light in a vacuum during a time interval of 1/299,792,458 of a second."

(Which is the same as saying c=299,792,458 m/s.)

First off, the meter was defined to be one ten-millionth of the distance from the north pole to the equator. For practical reasons it was then defined to be the distance between two fine lines engraved near the ends of a platinum-iridium bar. Next, in the 60's the meter was redefined to be 1,650,763.73 wavelengths of an orange-red light emitted by krpyton-86 atoms. The measurements of the speed of light had become so precise that the reproducibility of the krypton-86 meter itself became the limiting factor. From this, it makes sense to take the speed of light as a defined quantity and then use it to redefine the meter.

299,792,458 m/s was chosen to be the speed of light because it was known so precisely, making it senseless to further complicate things by defining it to be 3x10^8 m/s. Furthermore, it's absurd to define the speed of light to be 1 m/s. This would make the meter the length of the path light that light travels in 1 second, making the meter needlessly enormous in magnitude unless, however, the second was redefined to be a shorter period of time. Then we'd have a huge unit of distance and a tiny unit of time; not really ideal.

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There is simply too much vested interest in leaving the metre unchanged since the original French standard was set after the French Revolution. I don't see that there would be any benefit.

Changing the definition of the metre by .06% would create all sorts of problems with manufacturing/buildings/etc. Changing it gives no benefit and creates a huge disruption and cost.

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There is simply too much vested interest in leaving the metre unchanged since the original French standard was set after the French Revolution. I don't see that there would be any benefit.

Changing the definition of the metre by .06% would create all sorts of problems with manufacturing/buildings/etc. Changing it gives no benefit and creates a huge disruption and cost.

AM

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Related to Why Did the 1983 Conference Reject Defining c=3x10^8 or 1 m/s?

1. Why did the 1983 conference reject defining c=3x10^8 or 1 m/s?

The 1983 conference rejected defining c=3x10^8 or 1 m/s because it was already defined as the exact speed of light in a vacuum by the International System of Units (SI) in 1983. Therefore, there was no need to redefine it.

2. Was there a specific reason for the rejection of defining c=3x10^8 or 1 m/s?

Yes, the specific reason for the rejection was to avoid confusion and maintain consistency with the already established definition of c as the exact speed of light in a vacuum.

3. Were there any proposed alternative definitions for c at the 1983 conference?

No, there were no proposed alternative definitions for c at the 1983 conference. The focus of the conference was on redefining the International System of Units and not on redefining the already established constants such as c.

4. Did any countries or organizations support the proposal to redefine c as 3x10^8 or 1 m/s?

No, there were no known countries or organizations that supported the proposal to redefine c as 3x10^8 or 1 m/s. The rejection of the proposal was a unanimous decision by the members of the conference.

5. How did the rejection of the proposal to redefine c as 3x10^8 or 1 m/s affect the scientific community?

The rejection of the proposal did not have a significant impact on the scientific community as the definition of c as the exact speed of light in a vacuum was already widely accepted and used in scientific research and experiments. It also helped maintain consistency and avoid confusion in scientific calculations and measurements.

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