Why does the Japanese Maglev train use superconducting magnets

In summary, the conversation discusses the strength of superconducting electromagnets, specifically in the case of the Japanese maglev train and MRI machines. The article mentions that the train's magnets have 700,000 amps going through them, but only produce 5 Teslas of magnetic strength. The speaker wonders why the magnets need to be superconducting if they only need 5 T, which can be achieved with a few thousand amps. They also mention that superconductors allow for high amounts of current in a small cross section, unlike copper wires which would melt. The design of the train's magnet is also discussed, with the speaker suggesting that it must have a large cross section, making it difficult to have many turns. The conversation
  • #1
ryccoh
My little home made air-core solenoid makes 1.5T, why is it that superconducting electromagnets often aren't stronger than one would expect.
Take the japanese maglev train for example:

http://www.supraconductivite.fr/en/index.php?p=applications-trains-maglev-more

According to this article the magnets are superconducting and have 700,000 amps going through them.
Let's assume they were to use only 250 turns per meter then B=u0(N)(I) which would already be 220 Teslas. But according to the article it's only 5 Teslas strong what am I missing here? Obviously you wouldn't want 220 Teslas because of the compressive forces but wouldn't you want more than 5? And if for design reason you only needed 5 then it really doesn't seem like you would need to be superconducting, 5 T can be achieved with only a few thousand amps. Also MRI machines are only 1.5T and they're superconducting as well. Please help clarify.
 
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Because superconductors are (nearly) lossless meaning a wire of relatively small cross section can conduct at LOT of current. The same amount of current in a copper wire would melt it.

Also, I am not at all familiar with the design they refer to in the article; but if they area really using 700 k (it sounds very high) the cross section must be large. The critical current for a typical NbTi wire is about 3000 A/mm2; meaning the "wire" used for for the train will be need to be at least 17mm in dimeter. Hence, they can't be using many turns.

Also, the cross section of the wires used for MRI magnets is tiny; typically you do not use more than about 100A to energize the magnet so you need lots of turns.
 

1. Why does the Japanese Maglev train use superconducting magnets?

The Japanese Maglev train uses superconducting magnets because they have the ability to produce very strong magnetic fields without losing energy. This allows the train to reach high speeds, as there is minimal resistance from the magnetic levitation system.

2. How do superconducting magnets work in the Japanese Maglev train?

The superconducting magnets in the Japanese Maglev train work by using a phenomenon called superconductivity, where certain materials can conduct electricity with zero resistance at extremely low temperatures. This allows the magnets to maintain a strong magnetic field without losing energy, thus enabling the train to levitate and move forward.

3. What are the benefits of using superconducting magnets in the Japanese Maglev train?

The use of superconducting magnets in the Japanese Maglev train offers several benefits. These include higher speeds, smoother and quieter operation, lower energy consumption, and reduced maintenance costs. Additionally, the lack of physical contact between the train and the track reduces wear and tear, increasing the lifespan of the train.

4. Are there any drawbacks to using superconducting magnets in the Japanese Maglev train?

One of the main drawbacks of using superconducting magnets in the Japanese Maglev train is the need for extremely low temperatures for the magnets to function. This requires a complex and expensive cooling system to be installed on the train. Additionally, the initial cost of implementing the technology is high, but it is offset by the long-term benefits.

5. Are there other applications for superconducting magnets besides the Japanese Maglev train?

Yes, there are many other applications for superconducting magnets besides the Japanese Maglev train. These include medical imaging devices such as MRI machines, particle accelerators in scientific research, and fusion reactors in energy production. Superconducting magnets also have potential uses in transportation, such as in magnetic levitation trains and ships.

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