Why is momentum conserved for non conservative system?

In summary: Energy is a scalar quantity, meaning it has magnitude but no direction, while momentum is a vector quantity with both magnitude and direction. This difference in definitions leads to different properties and behaviors. In summary, Landau's mechanics proves that energy and momentum are conserved in an isolated system, but this is only true for total energy and momentum, not for specific energy types. This is due to the differences in definitions of energy and momentum. The principle of least action may not be able to fully explain conservation in non conservative systems, as it does not take into account the conversion of energy types.
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AlonsoMcLaren
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I am reading Landau's mechanics. He proved that energy and momentum are conserved in an isolated system when we forget about non conservative systems.

But why is energy not conserved in non conservative system, but momentum is? What is the proof?

I know we can show that momentum conservation in non conservative systems, like inelastic collision, by Newton's third law. But if I really want to stick to Landau's formulation, where the principle of least action, not Newton's laws, is the First Principle, how do I explain that momentum is conserved in non conservative systems? Or is the principle of least action simply incapable of handling friction?
 
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AlonsoMcLaren said:
But why is energy not conserved in non conservative system, but momentum is?
Energy comes in different types, while momentum doesn't. For an isolated system total energy is conserved just like total momentum is. But the amount of a specific energy type isn't conserved, as energy is converted into other types.
 
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A.T. said:
Energy comes in different types, while momentum doesn't. For an isolated system total energy is conserved just like total momentum is. But the amount of a specific energy type isn't conserved, as energy is converted into other types.
So why energy has different types and momentum does not?
 
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AlonsoMcLaren said:
So why energy has different types and momentum does not?
Because that's how they were defined.
 

1. What is momentum conservation in non-conservative systems?

Momentum conservation in non-conservative systems refers to the principle that the total momentum of a system remains constant, regardless of any changes that may occur within the system. This means that the sum of all the individual momenta within the system remains the same over time, even if external forces are acting on the system.

2. Why is momentum conserved in non-conservative systems?

The conservation of momentum in non-conservative systems is a result of Newton's third law of motion, which states that for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. In a non-conservative system, external forces may act on the system, but these forces will always come in pairs that cancel each other out, resulting in the conservation of momentum.

3. How does the conservation of momentum apply to non-conservative systems?

The conservation of momentum in non-conservative systems can be applied by using the principle that the total momentum of a system must remain constant. This can be used to analyze the motion of objects within the system and determine their velocities and directions based on the initial conditions and any external forces acting on the system.

4. What are some real-life examples of non-conservative systems where momentum is conserved?

Some real-life examples of non-conservative systems where momentum is conserved include collisions between objects, such as in a game of billiards or a car crash. In these situations, external forces may act on the system, but the total momentum of the system will remain constant.

5. Can momentum be conserved in all non-conservative systems?

No, momentum cannot be conserved in all non-conservative systems. For example, if there is a net external force acting on a system, such as friction or air resistance, then the total momentum of the system will not be conserved. However, in most non-conservative systems, such external forces are usually small and can be neglected, allowing for the conservation of momentum to be applied.

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