Work done by a conservative force using change in potential energy

In summary, the conversation discusses the relationship between work done by gravity and change in potential energy, and the need for two equations to solve for two unknowns. It also addresses the confusion around using the equation ##\Delta U = mg\Delta h## when the value of ##\mu## is unknown. The conversation concludes by clarifying that ##W_g## is always equal to ##-\Delta U## and that point B is at a height of 0.8m.
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Hamiltonian
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Homework Statement
Here a block of mass 1kg is placed at a point A on a rough track. If slightly pushed towards the right, it stops at point B.
we need to calculate the work done by gravity between points A and B
Relevant Equations
##W_g = -\Delta U##
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we know ##W_g = -\Delta U##
but here to find ##\Delta U## we will need another equation
won't it be wrong to write $$-\Delta U = -\int_1^{0.8}mgdy$$
as this equation is derived from ##W_g = -\Delta U## and as we have 2 unknowns we will need two equations.

this is a rather easy problem but I am not able to understand why we can use ##\Delta U = mg\Delta h ## here as we do not know the work done by gravity.
Also since we are not given the value of ##\mu## I am not using the work energy theorem
 
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Hamiltonian299792458 said:
won't it be wrong to write $$-\Delta U = -\int_1^{0.8}mgdy$$
as this equation is derived from ##W_g = -\Delta U## and as we have 2 unknowns we will need two equations.
What are the two unknowns that you are referring to here?

Also, is point B at a height of 0.8 m? In the figure, B looks to be higher than 0.8 m.
 
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TSny said:
What are the two unknowns that you are referring to here?

Also, is point B at a height of 0.8 m? In the figure, B looks to be higher than 0.8 m.
the two unknowns are ##\Delta U## and ##W_g##
point B is at a height 0.8m
 
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##W_g## is always equal to ##- \Delta U##. So, if you calculate ##-\Delta U##, you have ##W_g##.
 
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Hamiltonian299792458 said:
the two unknowns are ##\Delta U## and ##W_g##
point B is at a height 0.8m
The only potential energy here is that of gravity, so ##W_g=-\Delta U##.
 
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ok think I understood my mistake :doh:
 

1. What is the definition of work done by a conservative force?

The work done by a conservative force is the change in potential energy of an object as it moves from one point to another. This type of force is characterized by the fact that the work done does not depend on the path taken by the object, only on the initial and final positions.

2. How is the work done by a conservative force calculated?

The work done by a conservative force is calculated by taking the difference in potential energy between the initial and final points and multiplying it by the force acting on the object. This can be represented by the equation W = -ΔU, where W is the work done, ΔU is the change in potential energy, and the negative sign indicates that the force and displacement are in opposite directions.

3. What is the significance of a conservative force?

A conservative force is significant because it follows the principle of conservation of energy. This means that the total energy of a system remains constant, and any changes in potential energy due to the work done by the conservative force are balanced by an equal change in kinetic energy. This allows for a more efficient and accurate analysis of the motion of objects.

4. Can you give an example of a conservative force?

One example of a conservative force is gravity. As an object moves in a gravitational field, its potential energy changes due to its position in relation to the center of the Earth. However, regardless of the path taken by the object, the work done by gravity will always be the same, as long as the initial and final positions are the same.

5. How does the concept of work done by a conservative force relate to real-world applications?

The concept of work done by a conservative force is used in many real-world applications, such as in engineering and physics. Understanding the work done by conservative forces allows for the design and analysis of efficient systems, such as roller coasters and pendulums. It is also important in understanding the behavior of objects in gravitational fields, such as satellites orbiting the Earth.

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