Why silver atoms reflect light?

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The discussion revolves around the reasons why silver atoms reflect light rather than refracting it, exploring concepts such as plasmons, the behavior of conduction electrons in metals, and the properties that make silver a superior reflective material compared to other metals like iron.

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  • Some participants suggest that the reflection of light by silver is due to the oscillation of conduction electrons in response to incident electromagnetic radiation, leading to the phenomenon of plasmons.
  • Others argue that the reflection properties of metals arise from the interaction between light and conduction electrons within the conduction band, rather than from individual atoms.
  • A participant questions the interpretation of Huygens's principle in relation to reflection and refraction.
  • There is a query regarding the effect of polishing on the reflectivity of metals and what specific properties make silver a better reflector than iron.
  • Some participants assert that silver has the highest conductivity of any metal, which may relate to its reflective properties, while others challenge the relevance of conductivity to reflection.
  • Questions are raised about the percentage of light reflected by silver compared to glass, highlighting the differences in their reflective behaviors.

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Participants express differing views on the mechanisms behind light reflection in silver and the relevance of conductivity, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain without consensus.

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Participants mention various assumptions about the behavior of light and electrons, as well as the definitions of terms like plasmons and the role of polishing in reflectivity, which remain unresolved.

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why silver atoms reflect light? why they don't refract it, like the Huygens's principle says?
 
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Well, you need to go quite deep to get the full understanding here.

In short, your answer would be "plasmons" :)The conduction electrons in the metal will start to vibrate longitudinally as a response to the incident EM-radiation (ie the electrons will move back and forth, as a reaction to the incident oscillating electrical field). It is this oscillation of conduction electrons that gives rise to the phase shifted reflected light of a conductor.

The plasma frequence is that frequence above which the electrons can no longer 'follow' the oscillating incident E-field. This kinda means that the E field is vibrating too fast and the electrons cannot respond anymore to that motion. If this happens, the E field (thus light as well) will no longer be reflected but it will pass through the medium.

Plasmons are the particles that are associated with the longitudinal waves of the conduction electrons in a metal that has been submitted to incident EM-radiation (just like photons are the particles associated to EM radiation).

Hope that helps,

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marlon
 
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marlon said:
Well, you need to go quite deep to get the full understanding here.

In short, your answer would be "plasmons" :)


The conduction electrons in the metal will start to vibrate longitudinally as a response to the incident EM-radiation (ie the electrons will move back and forth, as a reaction to the incident oscillating electrical field). It is this oscillation of conduction electrons that gives rise to the phase shifted reflected light of a conductor.

The plasma frequence is that frequence above which the electrons can no longer 'follow' the oscillating incident E-field. This kinda means that the E field is vibrating too fast and the electrons cannot respond anymore to that motion. If this happens, the E field (thus light as well) will no longer be reflected but it will pass through the medium.

Plasmons are the particles (well quasi particles actually) that are associated with the longitudinal waves of the conduction electrons in a metal that has been submitted to incident EM-radiation.

Hope that helps,

regards
marlon

Isn't the property of reflection of the mirrors, is result of the silver atoms? Are the EM waves released from the atoms, are released in whole directions?
Thanks.
 
Physicsissuef said:
Isn't the property of reflection of the mirrors, is result of the silver atoms? Are the EM waves released from the atoms, are released in whole directions?
Thanks.

What atoms are you talking about ? You don't need to consider atoms individually here. We are talking about metals for example : metals are many particle systems, many atoms interacting with each other. Such systems have different properties like conduction and valence bands which you will not find in the case of individual atoms !

Basically, metals reflect incident light because of the interaction between the light and the conduction electrons inside the conduction band ! That is what i am talking about.

marlon
 
marlon said:
What atoms are you talking about ? You don't need to consider atoms individually here. We are talking about metals for example : metals are many particle systems, many atoms interacting with each other. Such systems have different properties like conduction and valence bands which you will not find in the case of individual atoms !

Basically, metals reflect incident light because of the interaction between the light and the conduction electrons inside the conduction band ! That is what i am talking about.

marlon
They absorb the energy, and re-emit it? Do they release the waves in whole directions, like in the Huygen's principle?
 
Isolated silver atoms do not reflect light. Silver metal reflects light, and even then only when polished into a nice smooth surface sufficiently large.

I don't understand your intepretation of Huygen's principle to exclude reflection.
 
Why does polishing a metal make it reflective? And I think the question remains, what in the silver metal plate exactly makes it a better reflective metal than, say iron? It is not a better conductor metal I think, so what is the major property of silver that makes it the best substance for mirrors?
 
Yoni said:
And I think the question remains, what in the silver metal plate exactly makes it a better reflective metal than, say iron? It is not a better conductor metal I think,
You really should look things up first. Silver has the highest conductance of any metal, with more than 6 times the conductivity of iron. Nobody uses iron wiring in their house. It is illegal to do so in many places! We use copper instead. Copper has a conductivity close to that of silver but costs a lot less than silver.
 
D H said:
You really should look things up first. Silver has the highest conductance of any metal, with more than 6 times the conductivity of iron. Nobody uses iron wiring in their house. It is illegal to do so in many places! We use copper instead. Copper has a conductivity close to that of silver but costs a lot less than silver.

What the conductivity has to do with reflection? Why the silver atoms reflect 99% of the light which interacts with them. Why glass 96% reflects, and 4% refracts light?
 

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