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Graduate Persistence length: What are the beginning and end point in an polymer?
I was already figuring the DNA as one tube. In your article it says "the elastic cost of bending is totally negligible", but what is the limit for this negligence?- Juqon
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- Forum: Atomic and Condensed Matter
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Graduate Persistence length: What are the beginning and end point in an polymer?
Persistence length: What are the beginning and end points in an polymer? Hello, can you tell me where the starting point and the ending point of the (parts of the) persistence length in a polymer are? I thought the persistence length was the greatest length that only just is not bent...- Juqon
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- Beginning Length Point Polymer
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- Forum: Atomic and Condensed Matter
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Zero-point energy from Schroedinger equation using Ritz variaton principle
You are right, the integrals were wrong, thank you. This is my calculation with the right ones: E_{0}=\frac{\frac{\pi}{\alpha^{2}}\left\{ \frac{\hbar^{2}}{\mu}\alpha-e^{2}\right\} +\frac{\pi}{\alpha^{3}}\cdot\left(-\frac{\hbar^{2}}{2\mu}\alpha^{2}\right)}{\frac{\pi}{\alpha^{3}}}...- Juqon
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- Forum: Advanced Physics Homework Help
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Zero-point energy from Schroedinger equation using Ritz variaton principle
Mh, I didn't change the other integrals. E_{0}= \frac{<\psi|\hat{H}|\psi>}{<\psi|\psi>}=\frac{\int_{-\infty}^{\infty}d\vec{r}\psi^{*}\left\{ -\frac{\hbar^{2}}{2\mu}\left[\alpha^{2}-\frac{2}{r}\alpha\right]\psi-\frac{e^{2}}{r}\psi\right\} }{\int_{-\infty}^{\infty}d\vec{r}\psi^{*}\psi}...- Juqon
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- Forum: Advanced Physics Homework Help
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Zero-point energy from Schroedinger equation using Ritz variaton principle
This is my newest version. I think I showed in #13 what the result of the integral ist, but now that differentiations make it 0 I deleted the whole L term. E_{0}= \frac{<\psi|\hat{H}|\psi>}{<\psi|\psi>}=\frac{\int_{-\infty}^{\infty}dr\cdot r^{2}\cdot\psi^{*}\left\{...- Juqon
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- Forum: Advanced Physics Homework Help
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Zero-point energy from Schroedinger equation using Ritz variaton principle
Thanks, now here is my newest problem. [EDIT: I think I found it.]E_{0}=\frac{<\psi|\hat{H}|\psi>}{<\psi|\psi>}= \frac{\int_{-\infty}^{\infty}dr\cdot r^{2}\cdot\psi^{*}\left\{ -\frac{\hbar^{2}}{2\mu}\left[\alpha^{2}-\frac{2}{r}\alpha\right]\psi+\frac{1}{4\pi\epsilon_{0}}...- Juqon
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- Forum: Advanced Physics Homework Help
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Zero-point energy from Schroedinger equation using Ritz variaton principle
\langle \psi \vert \psi \rangle = \int_0^\infty \int_0^\pi \int_0^{2\pi} e^{-2\alpha r}r^2\sin \theta \,dr\,d\theta\,d\phi=\frac{1}{4}\alpha^{3} \cdot 2\pi \cdot\left[-cos\right]^\pi _0 = \frac{1}{4}\alpha^{3} \cdot 2\pi \cdot\left[-(-1) - (-(1))\right]=\frac{1}{4}\alpha^{3} \cdot 4\pi...- Juqon
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- Forum: Advanced Physics Homework Help
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Zero-point energy from Schroedinger equation using Ritz variaton principle
\langle \psi \vert \psi \rangle = \int_0^\infty \int_0^\pi \int_0^{2\pi} e^{-2\alpha r}r^2\sin \theta \,dr\,d\theta\,d\phi=\frac{1}{4}\alpha^{3} \cdot 2\pi² And with L^2 = -\hbar^2 \left(\frac{1}{\sin\theta}\frac{\partial}{\partial \theta}\left( \sin\theta \frac{\partial}{\partial...- Juqon
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- Forum: Advanced Physics Homework Help
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Zero-point energy from Schroedinger equation using Ritz variaton principle
\langle \psi \vert \psi \rangle = \int_{0}^\infty \int_{0}^\pi \int_{0}^{2\pi} r²\cdot sin² (\theta) \psi^*(r, \theta,\phi) \psi(r,\theta,\phi)\ ,dr\,d \theta\, d\phi- Juqon
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- Forum: Advanced Physics Homework Help
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Zero-point energy from Schroedinger equation using Ritz variaton principle
I'd say that is in spherical coordinates: \langle \psi \vert \psi \rangle = \int_{-\infty}^\infty \int_{-\infty}^\infty \int_{-\infty}^\infty r²\cdot sin² (\theta) \psi^*(r, \theta,\phi)\psi(r,\theta,\phi)\ ,dr\,d \theta\,d\phi. I understand of course that \vec{r}=(r cos \theta cos \phi, r...- Juqon
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- Forum: Advanced Physics Homework Help
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Zero-point energy from Schroedinger equation using Ritz variaton principle
Wikipedia says L^2 = -\hbar^2 \left(\frac{1}{\sin\theta}\frac{\partial}{\partial \theta}\left( \sin\theta \frac{\partial}{\partial \theta}\right) + \frac{1}{\sin^2\theta}\frac{\partial^2}{\partial \phi^2}\right). But that would be more complicated, because I don't see it go away by a derivation...- Juqon
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- Forum: Advanced Physics Homework Help
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Zero-point energy from Schroedinger equation using Ritz variaton principle
Ok, I will correct the sign, sorry. The example was very helpful, thanks. Did I use the integral measure correctly? And is the result really that complicated? E_{0}=\frac{<\psi|\hat{H}|\psi>}{<\psi|\psi>}= \frac{\int_{-\infty}^{\infty} dr\cdot r^{2}\cdot\psi^{*}\left\{...- Juqon
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- Forum: Advanced Physics Homework Help
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Zero-point energy from Schroedinger equation using Ritz variaton principle
Homework Statement Calculate the zero-point energy of the hydrogen atom using the Ritz variaton principle and the approach \psi_{\alpha}. Hint: The stationary Schroedinger equation in spherical coordinates is ... Homework Equations \left\{...- Juqon
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- Energy Principle Zero-point energy
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- Forum: Advanced Physics Homework Help
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Square of a wave function; way to understand
In quantum mechanics, but it was not directly a task, just a way to find the Gaussian packet and read the expectation value for x and also the Delta_X², and since it was in the book I wanted to do it myself. But it seems there are easier ways to do this.- Juqon
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- Forum: Introductory Physics Homework Help
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Square of a wave function; way to understand
[7] =\frac{A^{2}}{4\pi\sqrt{d^{2}+\frac{\hbar^{2}t^{2}}{4m^{2}}}}\cdot\exp\left\{ \frac{\left(-x^{2}d^{2}+2\frac{\hbar t}{m}d^{2}k_{0}x-\frac{\hbar^{2}t^{2}}{m^{2}}d^2k_{0}^{2}\right)}{2d^{4}+\frac{\hbar^{2}t^{2}}{2m}}\right\} [8] \frac{A^{2}}{4\pi\sqrt{d^{2} +\frac{\hbar^{2}t^{2}}{4m^{2}}}}...- Juqon
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- Forum: Introductory Physics Homework Help