Nope, that's not music. Music are the stimuli that the vibrations create, and stimuli are something experienced by a mind. This is simply not a semantic interpretation of music, but the nature of all music. And this clearly is where you and Paul (and I) differ.
The vibrations have to be...
Metzinger might suggest how basic consciousness arises in the book Being No One, but in the 35 pages sketch he surely sets a premise that there already exists a minimal concept of consciousness. When he speaks of “globality” as one of the three basic notions that is needed to form a minimal...
All though radical, I would say Paul's PC idea is a step in the right direction to examine the fabric of minimal consciousness, so that we can come to grips with what consciousness really is. Metzinger do not explain how the basic phenomenolgy of consciousness arise, or what it is. He sets a...
Well sorry, but I thought you were talking about the same in both statements. As when you said:
If you do believe that concepts and mathematics exist not only in a logical way, it’s meaningless to point out that we don’t invent mathematics but discover it, and at the same time compare that to...
Ah, so you think that qualia are not representations of physical entities? Or at least don't have to be?
Sorry, but I’m still not sure what exactly you think qualia is. You’ve said that:
And that a quale is:
You’ve also said:
But then you said:
Aren’t the two last statements...
Maybe this time I get you right: You think qualia are virtual entities, which are real - not only in a logical sense, and exist outside the physical world, but do not interact with the physical all though they are constructed within an information processing that are generated by physical...
Well, nobody can observe anything but their qualia, so nothing is observable in an objectively way. Science relies on qualia. Spite the irreliability and irreproducebility of human senses and qualia, we have to use them. All though we prefer using various devices and tools to increase...
Actually, qualia are all we observe. But you might be right, the physical and qualia might very well be the same. But that doesn't make qualia real only in a logical sense. If qualia and the physical are the same then raw consciousness are fundamental properties in the physical world.
The problem, Moving Finger, is that since you don’t believe that concepts or virtual objects exist exept in a logical sense, and you also compare qualia with virtual objects, you’re saying that the experience of blueness are not real except in a logical sense. Yet, there is a big difference...
I find it difficult to understand what you actually mean by "agent". Earlier you've referred to virtual agents, which Paul and I have argued that belong to imagining. You've suggested that "virtual entails only that an entity is interpreted by an agent as directly representing some form of...
I think the difference between dualists and monists derives from contradictory ideas on what the physical or rather not-qualia are like.
All though I’ve never experienced nothing but qualia, since experience is qualia, I find it rational to compare not-qualia with something not visible, since...
Here's the author Douglas Adams' idea of God's birth: "Imagine an early man surveying his surroundings at the end of a happy day’s tool making. He looks around and he sees a world which pleases him mightily: behind him are mountains with caves in—mountains are great because you can go and hide...