Recent content by TerryW

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    Some work on MTW Figure 25.7

    BTW thanks for the link to Wolfram - I tried it with numbers of four significant figures and it worked.
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    Some work on MTW Figure 25.7

    I looked at my workings for verifying the figures of 1.75 and 0.0036 and found that I was still using an early estimate for ##F(\frac{\pi}{2},k)## on in the workings for 1.75. Using Google AI to generate the value resulted in much closer result - 1.86 vs 1.75. As my result depends on my choice...
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    Some work on MTW Figure 25.7

    Yep! Still have my slide rule. I agree that Darwin's expressions and mine are the same, I'm only questioning why it was necessary to introduce Q in the first place when everything can be derived directly from the roots of the cubic. But I also thought my post may be useful if anyone else ever...
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    Some work on MTW Figure 25.7

    Hi TSny, I've had a look at the paper you recommended and yes it shows the relationship between the roots of the cubic and Q and R, but it still leaves me with the question of why bother to do it when you can just use the roots directly as I have demonstrated. I can't take all the credit for...
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    Some work on MTW Figure 25.7

    Figure 25.7 in MTW is unusual in that it introduces formulae with no real explanation as to how they have been derived. I refer to the use of ##Q^2 = (R-2)(R+6)## and ##Sin^2 \theta = k^2 = (Q-R+6)/2Q## and then ##sin^2 \phi_{min} = (2+Q-R)/(6+Q-R)## leading to ##\Theta =...
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    Help needed with Elliptic Integrals

    You're right. I just wanted to indicate the integral I needed to deal with so I wasn't really paying attention to the precise format. But thanks for making it clear. I'm going to see if I can get hold of a copy of the 1959 paper by Ward and Wheeler which might be of use in finding the equation...
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    Help needed with Elliptic Integrals

    Hi JimWhoKnew! Yes. I'm currently working on Fig 25.7 in MTW. and I think this integral might be relevant. TerryW
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    Help needed with Elliptic Integrals

    That's great! Thanks for all your help with this. TerryW
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    Help needed with Elliptic Integrals

    Which brings me back to what was my original problem, which is to work out how to get my cubic expression (##\int\frac{du}{\sqrt{((c+u^2(-1+2u))}}##) into one of the forms of elliptic integral which has a solution in the form of ##F(sin^{-1}\theta|\alpha)##. I'll see if Abromowitz and Stegun can...
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    Help needed with Elliptic Integrals

    I've found a pdf of Abromowitz and Stegun. I'll see if it clarifies things for me. Looking at the result from Mathematica, I wonder if it is actually correct? For example, the term ##(r2-r3)^2## on the denominator of the second square root cancels out the term ##(r2-r3)## at the beginning of...
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    Help needed with Elliptic Integrals

    Many thanks for this. I think I can console myself that I didn't miss an easy route to a solution! :smile: It's interesting that the elliptic integral of the first kind appears in the solution, but where the rest of it comes from may remain a mystery to me. I'm still puzzled by the fact that...
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    Help needed with Elliptic Integrals

    I want to find the solution to the integral ##\theta = \int_0^{\theta}\frac{du}{\sqrt{(c-u^2 +2u^3)}}## I can see that ##\frac{d^2u}{d\theta^2} = A +Bu+Cu^2## is a Weierstrass elliptic function, which can be generated from ##\Large(\normalsize\frac{du}{d\theta}\Large)\normalsize^2 = c-u^2...
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    MTW Ex 25.20 - Dynamic Phase Diagram

    Hi Tony, You really are a star! Thanks. TerryW
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    MTW Ex 25.20 - Dynamic Phase Diagram

    Hi TSny I've now figured out the reasoning behind equations 28 & 29 in Box 25.4 - I just have one issue left which I haven't been able to resolve. It comes from the picture you posted in #6 of the orbit of the particle, which is a line that is normal to the wavefronts it crosses. I thought it...
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    MTW Ex 25.20 - Dynamic Phase Diagram

    Sorry, that was a bit sloppy on my part! I feel that there isn't much else to be extracted from this problem - but I have just one question I'm going to look at before I move on. That is: Why does ##\frac {\partial{ \tilde S}}{\partial{ \tilde L}}## produce 'the shape of the orbit' and why is...