Discussion Overview
The discussion revolves around finding a book that addresses the numerical solution of the Schrödinger equation without relying on approximations or special techniques such as Hartree-Fock. Participants explore various numerical methods and express differing views on the feasibility of solving the equation in its entirety.
Discussion Character
- Exploratory
- Debate/contested
- Technical explanation
Main Points Raised
- One participant seeks a book that allows for the numerical solution of the Schrödinger equation without approximations, expressing frustration over the lack of existing resources.
- Another participant suggests exploring various numerical methods such as Finite Element Method (FEM), Finite Difference Method (FDM), and Finite Volume Method (FVM) for potential resources.
- Several participants argue that it is impossible to solve the Schrödinger equation without some form of approximation due to the limitations of digital computers, which operate with finite numbers and operations.
- A participant expresses a desire to calculate spectral data and the spatial distribution of electrons in complex atoms, indicating a specific application of interest.
- There is a correction regarding the Hartree-Fock model, clarifying that it does not necessarily involve spherical approximations of orbitals, but rather transforms the multi-electron problem into single-electron problems while considering electron interactions.
- One participant mentions an older book, "Methods of Molecular Quantum Mechanics" by R. McWeeny, as a potential resource, while also suggesting looking into density functional theory and quantum Monte Carlo methods.
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
Participants express disagreement regarding the feasibility of solving the Schrödinger equation without approximations, with some insisting it is impossible while others explore the nuances of numerical methods and their applications. The discussion remains unresolved on the best approach to take.
Contextual Notes
Participants highlight limitations related to the nature of numerical methods and the inherent approximations required in computational approaches. There is also a mention of the specific contexts in which different methods may be applicable.