Proving the Invariance of the Spacetime Interval: Importance and Applications

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The spacetime interval is invariant across all inertial frames, a principle foundational to Einstein's Lorentz transformations. This invariance is mathematically expressed through the equation ds'^2=c^2t'^2-x'^2, where the Lorentz transformation maintains the form of the interval. The significance of this concept lies in its universal applicability, allowing all observers to agree on the spacetime interval despite differing perceptions of time and space. Resources such as Thomas Moore's 'A Traveler's Guide to Spacetime' and Edwin Taylor's 'Spacetime Physics' provide accessible explanations and insights into this fundamental aspect of Special Relativity.

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  • Understanding of Lorentz transformations
  • Familiarity with spacetime interval calculations
  • Basic knowledge of Special Relativity principles
  • Proficiency in tensor notation and Einstein summation convention
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  • Study the derivation of the Lorentz transformations in detail
  • Explore the implications of spacetime invariance in various physical scenarios
  • Read Edwin Taylor's 'Spacetime Physics' to deepen understanding of invariant intervals
  • Investigate the role of Minkowski's contributions to the unification of space and time
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How do we prove that the spacetime interval is invariant? Also why is it so important?
 
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Ragnar said:
How do we prove that the spacetime interval is invariant? Also why is it so important?
Have a look please at
Thomas Moore, 'A Traveler's Guide to Spacetime, Mc.Graw Hill,Inc. 1955\ Starting with Chapter 4
It is important among others because it is the starting point for the derivation by Einstein of the Lorentz-Einstein transformations.
I hope I gave you a good and accessible refence.
 
Ragnar said:
How do we prove that the spacetime interval is invariant? Also why is it so important?

Use the Lorentz transforms for x',t' in the expression of the spacetime interval ds'^2=c^2t'^2-x'^2
The invariant(s) (there are quite a few more, like , for example E^2-(pc)^2) are very important because they aid in solving problems where relative motion is involved.
 
The Lorentz transformation is defined so as to keep the spacetime interval invariant. More precisely, any \Lambda such that

\Lambda \eta \Lambda = \eta

where \eta = \mbox{diag}(1,-1,-1,-1) is a transformation which keeps the spacetime interval invariant.

EDIT: in component form, using Einstein summation

\eta_{a'b'} = \eta_{ab}\Lambda^a\mbox{}_{a'}\Lambda^b\mbox{}_{b'}
 
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A previous thread: https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=115451

It's important because it is a quantity that all observers will agree upon, in spite of their general disagreement in the component-displacements.
Its analogue in Euclidean geometry is the [square-]distance between two points.
 
Ragnar said:
Also why is it so important?
The space-time interval serves the same role in (the geometry of) Special Relativity as the distance formula serves in Euclidean geometry.
 
masudr said:
The Lorentz transformation is defined so as to keep the spacetime interval invariant. More precisely, any \Lambda such that

\Lambda \eta \Lambda = \eta

where \eta = \mbox{diag}(1,-1,-1,-1) is a transformation which keeps the spacetime interval invariant.

EDIT: in component form, using Einstein summation

\eta_{a'b'} = \eta_{ab}\Lambda^a\mbox{}_{a'}\Lambda^b\mbox{}_{b'}
Do you teach or only use special relativity. If you teach I would send you a story..
 
neutrino said:
The first chapter of Spacetime Physics deals with invariant interval; the exposition is enlightening. You can download the first chapter of the first edition from Edwin Taylor's website: http://www.eftaylor.com/download.html#special_relativity

Great find. Ed's site must have been recently updated.

See the famous "Parable of the Surveyors". (I've been working on a variation and extension of this parable.)

The last sections of Chapter 1 include the rapidity discussions that have removed from the second edition.
 
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bernhard.rothenstein said:
Do you teach or only use special relativity. If you teach I would send you a story..

I learn & use only, I'm afraid.
 
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Ragnar said:
How do we prove that the spacetime interval is invariant? Also why is it so important?

Although the transforms upon which the invariance of the interval is based were developed by lorentz and Einstein - it was Minkowski that first pointed out the physics - the fact that in our universe, space and time can be unified and the unification is easy to visualize - any two events in spacetime are separated by an interval which has the same spacetime magnitude in every possible uniformly moving frame which can be imagined. Almost all problems in SR can be quickly solved by using this fundamental concept.
 
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