Find F(2,4) of Differentiable Function

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The discussion revolves around finding the value of F(2,4) for a differentiable function given certain partial derivatives and a vector direction. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and application of gradient concepts.

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  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant states that the gradient of the function at the point (2,4) is -3i + 8j based on the given partial derivatives.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of showing work done so far in the problem-solving process.
  • A participant proposes that the directional derivative Duf(2,4) would be the same as the gradient.
  • There is a discussion about the correct unit vector derived from the vector a = <3,4> and its magnitude, with some confusion regarding the initial vector a = <2,4>.
  • One participant confirms the procedure for calculating the directional derivative is correct, but notes that the unit vector would differ based on the vector used.
  • Another participant agrees on the magnitude of the vectors and expresses appreciation for the learning process involved in arriving at the solution independently.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the procedure for finding the directional derivative and the importance of showing work, but there is some confusion regarding the vectors involved and their magnitudes. The discussion does not reach a consensus on the specific values or final results.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved aspects regarding the definitions of the vectors and their magnitudes, as well as the implications of using different vectors in the calculations.

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let f(x,y) be a differentiable function.Given that fx(2,4) =-3 and fy(2,4) =8, find F(2,4) where u is in the same direction of a =<2,4>
 
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You are very good at faithfully reproducing the QUESTION!
However, as you are well aware of when signing up here at PF, you have a duty to show what you have done so far.
 
I didn't know. here is what i have so far...
i know that the gradient (F) is -3i +8j

i think Duf(2,4) would be same

i think vector a = <3,4> to unit would be <3,4>/5
 
i think i got it. grad (f) doted with unit
 
antjm said:
i think i got it. grad (f) doted with unit

That is correct!
Now, if your vector "a" was <2,4> as you wrote initially, that procedure is still the right one, but your unit vector would be somewhat different than if "a" was <3,4>.
Agreed?
 
Agreed, a = <3,4> therefore magnitude would be 5 if a =<2,4> magnitude would be 2rt(5)
thanks
 
antjm said:
Agreed, a = <3,4> therefore magnitude would be 5 if a =<2,4> magnitude would be 2rt(5)
thanks
It was a pleasure!
It is always great to meet a student like you who, when asked to do something on his own, suddenly hits upon the right procedure all by himself (as you did).
Then I know the student (in this case, you), have mastered the particular problem better than if I just had handed over the solution.
:smile:
 

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