Magnitude in frequency domain of Fourier Transform situation

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around graphing signals in the frequency domain, specifically focusing on the Fourier Transform of a function involving an exponential term with a constant multiplied by time. Participants are exploring how to represent the magnitude of the Fourier Transform and clarifying their understanding of the relationship between time-domain signals and their frequency-domain representations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses uncertainty about graphing the frequency domain representation of a signal involving an exponential term, recalling that it resembles a cosine function with half the magnitude.
  • Another participant requests clarification on the original question, suggesting that providing actual equations would improve understanding.
  • A participant indicates that the magnitude plot for a cosine function should consist of vertical lines at specific frequencies, questioning whether the magnitude at these points would be 1/2.
  • There is a discussion about the correct representation of the magnitude of a damped cosine function, with one participant asserting that the magnitude should tend to zero as frequency approaches infinity.
  • Questions arise regarding the magnitude at zero frequency, with participants seeking to understand its value in the context of the discussed functions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the correct approach to graphing the magnitude of the Fourier Transform. There are competing views on how to represent the frequency domain characteristics of the given signal, and some participants express confusion about the original question and its formulation.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note the need for clearer equations and representations to facilitate understanding. There is also a lack of agreement on the correct magnitude representation for the discussed functions, indicating potential misunderstandings or differing interpretations of Fourier Transform properties.

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Hi All, I'm just trying to practice graphing signals in frequency domain and I came across a stiuation I wasn't familiar with. If the exp() has a constant*t in it I'm not sure how to graph it, I remember that just cos it like a double sided exp(jwt) but with half the magnitude. I've attached a drawing to better illustrate the question of how to graph X(w),
I've worked out that X(w) = 1/2[1/(3+j(w-10)) + 1/(3+j(w+10))] from x(t) but not sure what that magnitude in frequency domain looks like.

Thanks heaps!
 

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Did I post this in the wrong section or what?
 
Can someone tell me if I wrote the question poorly (i.e my fault) or it is just not interesting enough to respond to?
 
toneboy1 said:
If the exp() has a constant*t in it I'm not sure how to graph it, I remember that just cos it like a double sided exp(jwt) but with half the magnitude.

I can recognise the words taken one at a time, and I know what Fourier transforms are about, but I can't figure out what your question is.

If might help if you wrote some actual equations, rather than things like "just cos it like a double sided exp(jwt)".
 
AlephZero said:
I can recognise the words taken one at a time, and I know what Fourier transforms are about, but I can't figure out what your question is.

If might help if you wrote some actual equations, rather than things like "just cos it like a double sided exp(jwt)".

Hi,
On the picture attached, you'll notice the bottom frequency graph is of the magnitude of a cos function, and it is a double sided peak, this is the sort of result I'm trying to graph for the function on the top of the picture. Where I typed the question's text I gave the Fourier transformation of this function, but this is what I'm unsure how to graph, like the afformentioned magnitude of a cos function (on the bottom of the picture). I.e X(w) = 1/2[1/(3+j(w-10)) + 1/(3+j(w+10))] from x(t) in the picture.
Thanks
 
If you're trying to graph the magnitude of the Fourier transform of the damped cosine at the top, then you have pretty much succeeded with the lower plot (the magnitude needs to tend to 0 as the frequency goes to +- infinity).

The lower magnitude plot is thus not correct for cos(10t) - that would just be a couple of points (usually pictured as vertical lines) at +- 10 rad/s.
 
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milesyoung said:
The lower magnitude plot is thus not correct for cos(10t) - that would just be a couple of points (usually pictured as vertical lines) at +- 10 rad/s.
Ah, ok, and would those vertical lines have a magnitude of 1/2 each?

RIGHT so that is pretty much the graph for the damped cos, so w at +/- infinity it tends to zero, what about at w is zero, is the magnitude zero?

THANKS!
 

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