Transforming Fields in Inertial and Rotating Frames

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An orbiting observer experiences centripetal acceleration, indicating that their frame is not inertial in the Newtonian sense, as it accelerates relative to a fixed background. However, in General Relativity (GR), this frame is considered locally inertial, allowing the use of special relativity principles. The discussion also highlights that a charged spherical shell rotating with the observer will still produce a non-zero magnetic field due to fictitious currents, complicating the transformation of electric and magnetic fields between inertial and non-inertial frames. Care must be taken when analyzing these transformations, as they are not straightforward. Understanding these concepts is crucial for accurately describing electromagnetic phenomena in rotating reference frames.
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If I am in orbit around Earth that means that I am in constant free-fall around earth.
Is this an inertial reference frame?
 
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I do not believe you are. An inertial reference frame is one in which there is no acceleration. Here you have a centripetal acceleration due to gravity.
 
In the Newtonian framework no, a freely falling frame is not inertial because it is accelerating with respect to some fixed background inertial frame. In the GR framework, a freely falling frame is locally inertial.
 
so it would be considered inertial, then I could use special relativity in that frame
 
In Newtonian mechanics it is not an inertial frame (however you can still do Newtonian mechanics in this frame as long as you transform to the frame correctly). In GR, it is locally an inertial frame and locally you can do SR.
 
cragar said:
so it would be considered inertial, then I could use special relativity in that frame
Locally, yes.
 
ok here is a question I have had for a while related to that. Let's say there is a charged spherical shell around me and the earth, and I am orbiting the earth, and the charged spherical shell is rotating with me at a constant
\omega so relative to me the charged spherical shell is not moving and the shell is just slightly at a larger radius than me. But to someone standing on Earth the shell is rotating, and in their frame this will produce a B field that points up and is constant. what's going on.
 
Actually even when you are in the frame of an observer rotating exactly with the (slowly) rotating shell of charge, there will be a non-zero magnetic field observed in the rotating frame due to fictitious currents. You have to be careful about how ##E## and ##B## fields transform from inertial frames to rotating frames, which are non-inertial. It is not as simple as transforming the fields from one inertial frame to another. For a detailed calculation of the scenario you described, see here: http://www.hep.princeton.edu/~mcdonald/examples/rotatingshell.pdf
 
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