QCD Feynman Diagrams: Understanding Particle Interactions

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The discussion focuses on the formulation and interpretation of Feynman diagrams in Quantum Chromodynamics (QCD), particularly regarding particle interactions involving quarks and gluons. Participants explore the mathematical representation of amplitudes and the conventions used in diagrammatic notation.

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  • One participant presents a complex amplitude expression involving quarks and gluons, seeking confirmation on its correctness.
  • Another participant suggests structuring the amplitude differently to avoid mistakes, providing their own notation conventions for fermion propagators and gauge bosons.
  • There is a discussion about the correct identification of gauge bosons, with one participant noting that the wavy line is typically reserved for spin-1 bosons other than gluons.
  • Concerns are raised about the use of repeated indices in the amplitude, with suggestions to differentiate them to avoid confusion in applying Einstein's summation convention.
  • Participants debate the correct usage of spinor notations for external legs in the amplitude, with one suggesting that some should be changed from u to v based on the process being described.
  • A participant clarifies that the diagram represents proton-antiproton annihilation into two mesons, providing context for the discussion.

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Participants express differing views on the correct notation and conventions for writing amplitudes in QCD. There is no consensus on the best approach, and multiple perspectives on the representation of the diagrams remain unresolved.

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Participants acknowledge potential errors in their notations and conventions, indicating a reliance on specific definitions and assumptions that may not be universally agreed upon.

Thor Shen
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the number stand for the index of particles (quarks and gluons)
M=\bar{v}(p_2) ig_sT_{12}\gamma^\mu(12)u(p_1)\frac{-i}{p_7^2}\bar{u}(p_5) ig_sT_{56}\gamma_\mu(56)\bar{v}(p_6)\frac{-i}{m-\gamma^\mu p_{9\mu}}\bar{v}(p_3) ig_sT_{34}\gamma^\mu(34)u(p_4)\frac{-i}{p_8^2}\bar{u}(p_5)ig_sT_{56}\gamma_\mu(56)\bar{v}(p_6)
u(p_i) and v(p_i) stand for the wave function of quark and antiquark, respectively. p_i stand for the four momentum
I am studying the QCD right now. Do I write the amplitude above right?
Someone recommend me a textbook by T.Muta. But I make some confusion when I confront complex diagrams like above. Which book or paper can tell me about this? Thank you!
 

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I like to structure it more as to not make mistakes:

##\def\lts#1{\kern+0.1em /\kern-0.45em #1}
\bar{u}_6 (-i g_s \gamma_{\mu} T^a) \frac{i}{\lts{p}_9 - m}(-i g_s \gamma_{\nu} T^b) u_5##
##\times \left(\bar{u}_4 (-i g_s \gamma_{\alpha} T^c) u_3\right)##
##\times \left(\bar{u}_2 (-i g_s \gamma_{\beta} T^d) u_1\right)##
##\times \left( -i \frac{g^{\mu \alpha} \delta^{ac}}{p_8^2} \right) \times \left( -i \frac{g^{\nu \beta} \delta^{bd}}{p_7^2} \right) ##

My convention is to always start with outgoing, working AGAINST the arrows (particle flow), and for fermion propagators write the momentum such that it goes WITH the arrow, and use ##\def\lts#1{\kern+0.1em /\kern-0.45em #1} i \frac{\lts{p}+m}{p^2-m^2}## which will be right.

You have a couple small errors I think. Also, I assumed those gauge bosons were gluons, though normally that would be the springy/curly line, not the wavy one. Wavy is reserved for basically all spin-1 bosons (gamma, w z) except the gluon.
 
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Yes, the gauge bosons were gluons. I will take care next time,thanks!
 
Thor Shen said:
Do I write the amplitude above right?

First thing I noticed was that you used the index μ twice (two pairs). You should make sure to use different indices for different gluons.
 
@ Hepth: Shouldn't you have used u's and v's instead of all u's for the external legs? I think Thor Shen had that right.
 
dauto said:
First thing I noticed was that you used the index μ twice (two pairs). You should make sure to use different indices for different gluons.
Yes. Firstly, I write the same index for omitting the delta functions. But the two pairs will mislead using Einstein's reduction rule, the latter one should be \nu. Of course, the complete form should be written by Hepth.
 
dauto said:
@ Hepth: Shouldn't you have used u's and v's instead of all u's for the external legs? I think Thor Shen had that right.

I don't really know what his process is, as it doesn't seem to have a specific time direction, so I just used generic spinors. Its its a 1 -> 5 process then yes, some of those need to be changed from u to v on the two bottom channels.

I guess it might make the most sense as a strong decay of some meson from the top down now that I am thinking about it deeper than a diagram. I always go from left to right as into out states.
 
The diagram is from the proton-antiproton annihilation into two mesons.
 

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