GCT said:
I wouldn't think that IQ would correlate with g.p.a., most of the smarter kids and friends I knew (who are med students, grad students, law students now) in high school would obtain fairly low grades .
I would fit into this category of slacker mainly because video game design and eating pizza hut seemed a lot more fun on "sick days". It's the fact that most kids see it as a rat race because that's what the majority of people make it, even the teachers. Which throws the whole idea of intrinsic motivation off key.
I like to think of SDT theory in these types of situations. It seems like grades exist only for recognition. Yet, we have to remember that even high school teachers aren't the best educated at all times unlike college professors who specialize and know their stuff. Currently the generation gap exists because of the information highway and many things in social psychology along with psychology are going to change.
The reason people are motivated is going to change also as money declines and knowledge becomes more useful, thus knowledge will become more expensive perhaps. Of course throw in piracy and etc. and things go blah.
I find that a high IQ is nice yet those who are motivated want something in life. The universe was based on want even as anthropomorphic as it may seem to some things. I'll have to admit that most people who make high grades in high school have more guidance than others while those with high IQs yet score low in school get low grades because of certain factors.
I assume the reason i got some low grades in school was because of group projects. Most people understand that people high in IQ find others a waste of time, ineffecient, and social loafers, therefore it takes the toll and the person eventually gives up and says f' it.
Thus their grade drops. Conformity perhaps? I assume there are many factors to this which is why I have a beef with what determines someone's intelligence. I figure that someone who can create something new, teach tons of people better than someone else, or some other standard makes them more intelligent than others.
Science in my opinion is what determines the intelligence of someone. Most importantly their ability to apply their knowledge.
If self-discipline is simply patience with the ignorant due to the motivation and the want for power then knowledge of social skill is applied, i find that sad. Yet, that's how the world works and people use one another to get ahead in life. It happens everyday in politics.
the interesting thing i find about some people is that, they are ignorant, they are intelligent, yet somehow they have this blind type of knowledge that allows them to get ahead. quite the oddity i see. it's like watching and talking to a bipolar person.
There are usually roadblocks for the self-disciplined and those who may seem disciplined may have help to overcome those so they don't have to be so disciplined.