Solving Conical Pendulum Problem: Results & Tips

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The discussion revolves around a conical pendulum problem, focusing on the forces acting on the pendulum and the relationships between them. Participants are exploring the dynamics of the system, particularly the tension and gravitational forces involved.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to analyze the problem using a differential approach, considering forces acting on a small segment of the pendulum. Some participants question the validity of this approach and suggest drawing a free body diagram to clarify the forces involved.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some offering guidance on visualizing the forces through diagrams. There is an acknowledgment of potential flaws in the original approach, particularly regarding the assumptions made about force directions.

Contextual Notes

There appears to be confusion regarding the application of forces and the assumptions about their directions, which may be affecting the understanding of the problem. The discussion is ongoing, with no clear resolution yet.

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i was solving thsi problem
and attempted it in this manner
consider a length dx of the rod at a distance x from the pivot now
let \theta be the required angle
dx\cos\theta = dm g
dx\sin\theta = m\omega^{2}x\sin\theta
dividing we get \tan\theta = \frac {\omega^{2}x\sin\theta}{g} which is obviously false
 
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Try drawing a free body diagram, with the three forces of gravity, tension and centripetus.
 
well what's wrong with my approach
 
the dx should be replaced by dT(x) the differential tension.but obviously still the problem is unsolved
 
pardesi, I think the problem with this approach is that it assumes that the net force acting on any part of the rod acts radially along the rod. This is not necessarily true.
 

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