How Fast is a Balloon Rising if a Dropped Coin Hits the Ground in 4 Seconds?

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The problem involves a balloon rising vertically while a coin is dropped from it. The scenario specifies that the coin reaches the ground in 4 seconds, and participants are tasked with determining the speed of the balloon based on this information.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the initial conditions of the coin's drop, including its height and initial velocity. There are attempts to apply motion equations to relate the time of fall to the balloon's speed. Questions arise about which motion equation to use and the implications of the coin's initial velocity being equal to the balloon's speed.

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Some participants have provided calculations and interpretations regarding the initial velocity of the coin and its relationship to the balloon's speed. There is an ongoing exploration of the physics involved, with no explicit consensus reached on the final answer.

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Participants are working under the assumption that the balloon rises at a constant speed and are considering the effects of gravity on the coin after it is dropped. The discussion reflects a mix of interpretations regarding the initial conditions and the application of kinematic equations.

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Hard Motion Question- Help?

I am really stuck on this motion question, can anyone help please?:confused:

"A balloon is 30.00m above the ground and is rising vertically with a uniform speed when a coin is dropped from it. If the coin reaches the ground in 4.00 seconds, what is the speed of the balloon?
 
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So, the coin has an initial height of 30 m, and an initial velocity of v. It has a constant acceleration of -9.8 m/s^2. Find the time it takes to fall to a height of 0 m, in terms of your variables v and t. Then plug in 4.00 s for t, and solve for v.
 
which motion equation do i use?
 
solve for the initial velocity of the coin,,since it is equal to the constant velocity of the balloon, try

0 = 30 + Vi * 4 - .5g(4^2)

thing to know is that if the balloon is traveling , say 500 m/s when the coin is dropped...the coin is actually dropped AT 500m's...so its initial velocity when you insert it into an equation is 500m/s,, NOT 0 as you might assume.
though that's irrelevant here, thought i might say. so that you understand the purpose of the question really
 
are you saying the coin when dropped is would be traveling the same speed of the balloon in an upwards direction?
 
yes, you and its acceleration is changed from 0 to -9.8 when you put it in the equation because of gravity...because of course it will be hitting the ground soon
 
I got 12.1 from that equation, but what is that number?
 
the coins initial velocity once it is released from the balloon. = 12.1

which just so happens to be the balloons constant velocity, since when you initially dropped the coin from the balloon its initial velocity is = to the balloon velocity.
so, Balloon-velocity = 12.1

ithink
 

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