Snell's law with a complex refractive index

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The discussion revolves around the application of Snell's law in the context of complex refractive indices, particularly focusing on how the extinction coefficient affects the calculation of the refractive angle. Participants explore the implications of using complex numbers in the context of wave propagation and light behavior at media interfaces.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that the refractive angle depends only on the real part of the complex refractive index, while the imaginary part relates to absorption.
  • Others question how to interpret the refractive angle when dealing with complex angles, particularly in experimental contexts.
  • A participant mentions that the derivation of the refractive angle becomes complicated when considering boundary conditions at the interface.
  • There is a suggestion that the phase shift of polarized light at the interface may complicate the understanding of the refractive angle when absorption is present.
  • One participant seeks clarification on the mathematical representation of the electric field and its implications for Snell's law.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the role of the imaginary part of the refractive index in determining the refractive angle, indicating that multiple competing views remain. The discussion does not reach a consensus on how to handle complex angles in practical scenarios.

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Limitations include the potential oversimplification of the relationship between the real and imaginary parts of the refractive index and the need for careful application of boundary conditions in deriving results.

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hello everyone

Consider extinction coefficient k, n becomes N=n-ik.
the textbook says NsinA=N'sinB still holds itself.

But the sinB,for exmple, may be a complex number, i want to know
how to get B?
how to understand this situation, which is the refractive angle?
the B's real part?
 
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The electric field in a plane wave E~exp[i(kx-wt)], where k=w N/c.
If N=n-ia, then E~exp[i(nw/c)x-wt)exp[-ax].
This means n is still used by Snell.
k is usually the wave number, so I used a for I am N.
 
thank you
and you mean that the refrective angle only depends on Re N--n
and has nothing to do with I am N--a(using your signal), right?
 
pam said:
The electric field in a plane wave E~exp[i(kx-wt)], where k=w N/c.
If N=n-ia, then E~exp[i(nw/c)x-wt)exp[-ax].
This means n is still used by Snell.
k is usually the wave number, so I used a for I am N.

Why you write exp{i[(nw/c)x-wt]}*exp(-ax) and not exp{i[(nw/c)x-wt]}*exp(axw/c) ?
 
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Sorry. That was a misprint. It should be axw/c.

"and you mean that the refrective angle only depends on Re N--n"
I'm afraid I oversimplified. The boundary conditions have to be applied at the interface, and the derivation done from scratch. It gets quite complicated.
 
these days ,i thought further that maybe it's only a kind of appearance to describe the polirized light phase shift at the interface of different media.
but i wonder which is the refractive angle if k ,ie absorption exist.
for example. air/silicon,whose N is 1 and 4.4-0.8i, respectively.
to Snell, 1*sin(AOI)=(4.4-0.8i)*sin(AOR),
AOR will be a complex number, how to get the real AOR in experiments?
 

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