How Should Frequency X and Y Be Described in SCENAR Therapy?

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The discussion centers on the description of impulse frequencies in SCENAR therapy, with a focus on how to mathematically represent the relationship between two variables, X and Y, which are both time in milliseconds. A SCENAR therapist seeks clarification on how to describe the resultant frequency when impulses are transmitted in quick succession. Responses suggest that the impulse function can be modeled as a decaying sine wave, with a proposed equation involving amplitude and frequency. There is also mention of using an envelope function to describe the rapid succession of impulses. The conversation highlights the need for a scientific perspective on the mathematical representation of these impulses.
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Hello

I am a SCENAR therapist, and I am looking for clarification on something which has confused me for a while. The SCENAR device stimulates the body to heal itself, by transmitting short impulses (measured in microseconds), which replicate neuro-impulses, the property of the impulse is such that it is able to penetrate the C-fibres in the skin, one impulse is as follows (I have connected it to my oscilloscope):

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The following shows a number of regular impulses on a set frequency 1/Y (ignore the C and D)

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A setting on the device allows another impulse to come almost immediately after the first (represented by time X). This is called "intensity", when Int=2, it shows on the oscilloscope as follows.

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I would like to know how to describe this resultant frequency in terms of X and Y

Thanks for you help, regards Phil
 
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Dear Phil,

You'd better post your question on the RITM OKB's forum as they are the patent holders and the manufacturer of the original scenar devices.

Here is the link for their forum http://www.scenar.com.ru/eng/index.php

Best wishes
SCENAR Australia
 
Thanks, I was going to go there next, although they aren't very active. I wanted an opinion from a scientist, who had nothing to do with scenar.

It seems a simple request, all I want is an equation, surely there must be other scientific equipment where impulses can behave in a similar manner, if so it must be describable using maths.

Regards Phil
 
Hi Phil,

X (horisontal axis) is time in ms and Y (vertical axis) is Voltage, V

Regards
SCENAR Australia
 
I should not have used X and Y, any other algebraic characters would suffice.

In my images they are both time in ms
 
The "impulse" function (not really an impulse ie. dirac delta) can be described by a decaying sine wave. That is a sine wave that quickly dies off and repeats at frequency F.
Where

\omega =2\pi F

Basically:
Asin\omega*e^{-t/\tau}

where A is the maximum amplitude of the voltage, \omega is basically the frequency of the sine wave, and the e^{-t/\tau} defines how fast the sine term decays.

I'm not exactly sure how you would describe the quickly repeated next impulse. Maybe an envelope function similar to an AM radio wave?

Just some thoughts I'm sure someone else can help a bit more.
 

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