High pressure humid air and thermodynamic tables

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This discussion focuses on the expansion of humid air at 450 bar pressure and 60% humidity, aiming to determine the pressure at which the air can be expanded adiabatically to reach just above freezing temperature. The ideal gas law is deemed inadequate due to a compressibility factor of 1.4, necessitating the use of thermodynamic tables and psychrometric charts for accurate calculations. The polytropic nature of the expansion is highlighted, with the need to account for the heat released during water vapor condensation. Understanding the relationship between partial pressure of water vapor and pressure is crucial for calculating the work extracted from the expansion.

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  • Thermodynamic tables and diagrams
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  • Polytropic processes in thermodynamics
  • Understanding of compressibility factors
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Homework Statement


This is my problem: i have a container with humid (say psi = 60%) air at a pressure of 450 bar. i need to know to what preesure can this air be expanded (adiabatically) so that it reaches temperature just above freezing.
i also need to know how much work is extracted from this expansion.

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this would not be hard to calculate using ideal gas law and laws for gas mixtures, but at this pressure the compressibility factor is 1.4, that means a 40% error done with ideal gas law. this should be done using thermodynamic tables and diagrams.

The Attempt at a Solution


as air expands adiabatically, it cools down, but condensing water adds some heat so expansion of "the dry part" is actually polytropic. if i neglect partial pressure of water vapor, i can calculate polytropic exponent n, since i know how much heat the water gives out during condensation.
but i don't know how partial pressure of water vapor changes with pressure.
if dew point changes with pressure, the complication is even bigger.
if i knew enthalpies in start and end state, calculating work would be simple (w = |h2 - h1|).
 
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You need to use a psychrometric chart (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychrometrics). Adiabatic cooling is a transition along a constant enthalpy line.

See also http://www.eitexam.com/Search2/ZMech/PsychroEq.asp?SB=1#Adiabatic%20Mixing

The answer should pop out.
 
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