What is the furthest you can throw something?

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The discussion revolves around the question of how far one can throw an object, exploring various interpretations of the question, the physics involved, and the types of objects considered. Participants engage in a mix of theoretical and practical considerations, including escape velocity, orbital mechanics, and personal throwing experiences.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that throwing an object at escape velocity would allow it to continue indefinitely, while others question the feasibility of achieving such a throw.
  • There is a distinction made between throwing an object into orbit and simply throwing it away from Earth, with some arguing that a second burn is necessary to achieve orbit.
  • Personal anecdotes about throwing distances are shared, with claims ranging from 15 feet to 60-70 meters.
  • Participants express differing views on the clarity of the original question, with some finding it ambiguous and others asserting it is straightforward.
  • Records for various types of throws are mentioned, including those for football, baseball, and flying rings, with discussions on whether these counts as human throws.
  • Some participants raise concerns about the limitations of throwing methods, such as the presence of obstacles or the nature of the projectile.
  • The concept of using a rail gun to launch projectiles is introduced, with a mention of distances potentially reaching 11 kilometers.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the clarity of the question or the feasibility of throwing objects into orbit. Multiple competing views remain regarding the interpretation of the question and the physics involved in throwing distances.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the ambiguity of the original question, the dependence on definitions of "throwing," and the unresolved nature of certain claims regarding orbital mechanics and projectile distances.

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Nice simple question.
 
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Too simple.

Who? Me? Anyone?
Realistically? In principle? According to physics?
What? A cotton ball? A hand grenade? A fishing trawler?
 
If you throw it perpendicular to the Earth's surface, if you throw it at escape velocity, it will keep going forever.

If you throw something horizontally with enough force, it will eventually go into orbit and continue "falling" forever.

Personally, my best dwarf toss was around 15 feet.
 
KingNothing said:
If you throw it perpendicular to the Earth's surface, if you throw it at escape velocity, it will keep going forever.

If you throw something horizontally with enough force, it will eventually go into orbit and continue "falling" forever.

Personally, my best dwarf toss was around 15 feet.

Excellent responses!

Reminds of a similar question:
Q: In good weather what is the farthest one can see?
A: 2 million light years.
 
Depends on whether or not something is in the way.
 
KingNothing said:
If you throw it perpendicular to the Earth's surface, if you throw it at escape velocity, it will keep going forever.

If you throw something horizontally with enough force, it will eventually go into orbit and continue "falling" forever.

Personally, my best dwarf toss was around 15 feet.

Clearly you cannot throw something into orbit, that is proven by the fact it has never been done, so it is fairly reasonable to say that is impossible.
 
AtomicJoe said:
Clearly you cannot throw something into orbit, that is proven by the fact it has never been done, so it is fairly reasonable to say that is impossible.

So, you agree your question needs clarification.

(BTW, something having never been done is definitely not proof that it can't be done.)
 
DaveC426913 said:
Too simple.

Who? Me? Anyone?
Realistically? In principle? According to physics?
What? A cotton ball? A hand grenade? A fishing trawler?


Well the question is as stated.
You can throw what you like, it is your choice, be it a hand grenade or a battleship.
 
Pengwuino said:
Depends on whether or not something is in the way.

Assume you are throwing it on earth, if you want to throw it into a brick wall or a mountain side that's your problem, I doubt will win many throwing competitions!
 
  • #10
AtomicJoe said:
Well the question is as stated.
You can throw what you like, it is your choice, be it a hand grenade or a battleship.

This is one of those 'discuss amongst yourselves for my amusement' questions.

I don't want to play.

Your question is poorly formed.
 
  • #11
DaveC426913 said:
So, you agree your question needs clarification.

(BTW, something having never been done is definitely not proof that it can't be done.)

I don't necessarily agree as I am unsure of the answer myself, so no I can't say I agree, I think the question is clear enough.
 
  • #12
DaveC426913 said:
This is one of those 'discuss amongst yourselves for my amusement' questions.

I don't want to play.

Your question is poorly formed.

It is a serious question, it may bring some amusement, nothing wrong with that!

You don't have to play I am sure you can find easier questions.

If you get stuck I will try to help. :wink:
 
  • #13
Pengwuino said:
Depends on whether or not something is in the way.

You can assume nothing is in the way, apart from the atmosphere.
 
  • #14
AtomicJoe said:
Nice simple question.

I threw a rock about 60-70 meters.
 
  • #15
Curl said:
I threw a rock about 60-70 meters.

I don't think that is going to be the winning answer.

Nice try nonetheless. :smile:
 
  • #16
AtomicJoe said:
I don't think that is going to be the winning answer.

It does answer your question.

You asked what the farthest Curl can throw something. That sounds like a plausible answer.

Since you are happy to leave the question without further definition, then the first answer that meets the criteria is your answer.
 
  • #17
DaveC426913 said:
It does answer your question.

You asked what the farthest Curl can throw something. That sounds like a plausible answer.

I didn't refer to Curl specifically, the 'you' refers 'any person'.

Example "What is the biggest number you can divide by 10 exactly?".
 
  • #18
AtomicJoe said:
I didn't refer to Curl specifically, the 'you' refers 'any person'.
And any person answered. Question answered.
 
  • #19
DaveC426913 said:
And any person answered. Question answered.

Question was misunderstood apparently.
 
  • #20
USA type football record, 306 feet <=> 93.2 meters.

USA type baseball record 445 feet <=> 135.6 meters

Aerobie flying ring world record 1,333 feet <=> 406.3 meters
 
  • #21
AtomicJoe said:
Question was misunderstood apparently.

Nope. Question was poorly formed. i.e. ambiguous.

Request for disambiguation netted an answer which is essentially 'you are free to come up with your own interpretation of the question'.
 
  • #22
DaveC426913 said:
Nope. Question was poorly formed. i.e. ambiguous.

Request for disambiguation netted an answer which is essentially 'you are free to come up with your own interpretation of the question'.

Well if you look at it like that the answer with the longest distance wins.
Thus the answer for Curl is unlikely to 'win'.

Others are welcome to give their own answers.
 
  • #23
rcgldr said:
USA type football record, 306 feet <=> 93.2 meters.

USA type baseball record 445 feet <=> 135.6 meters

Aerobie flying ring world record 1,333 feet <=> 406.3 meters

Is that the record for a human throw?

I am not sure the last one counts as a throw as such as it seems it received energy after the release.

You are not restricted to energy provided by a human body, but an answer for just that type of throw would be interesting.
 
  • #24
KingNothing said:
If you throw something horizontally with enough force, it will eventually go into orbit and continue "falling" forever.

Last I heard, you can't throw (or fire from a gun) something into orbit. It either goes on forever, or falls back to Earth. You need a second burn to inject it into orbit after the intiial toss.
 
  • #25
Oldfart said:
Last I heard, you can't throw (or fire from a gun) something into orbit. It either goes on forever, or falls back to Earth. You need a second burn to inject it into orbit after the intiial toss.

Well that is kind of what I am getting at.
I mean if it was possible to fire something into orbit then it seems fair to say that if it could be done it would have been done many many years ago.

After all it is a simpler principle than a rocket.

Actually I may have misread your answer, you seem to be saying you can fire something
outside the grasp of the Earth's gravity?

If so do you have any evidence to support that view, ie has it ever been done?

And if no why not?
 
  • #26
AtomicJoe said:
Well if you look at it like that the answer with the longest distance wins.
Thank you. That could be considered a disambiguation.


Only took 22 posts... :rolleyes:
 
  • #27
DaveC426913 said:
Thank you. That could be considered a disambiguation.Only took 22 posts... :rolleyes:
There is no requirement to have a single answer.Anyway now the question is to your satisfaction perhaps you colud have a shot at answering it? :rolleyes:
 
  • #28
AtomicJoe said:
Anyway now the question is to your satisfaction perhaps you colud have a shot at answering it? :rolleyes:

I might be able to throw a baseball about 25 yards.
 
  • #29
DaveC426913 said:
I might be able to throw a baseball about 25 yards.

OK so what do you think is the furthest anyone could manage, using any 'throwing' (or fireing) method on earth?
 
  • #30
Sometimes it is easier to question the question than answer it!
 

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