Verifying the metric space e = d / (1 + d)

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The discussion revolves around verifying the properties of a metric space defined by the metric e(a,b) = d(a,b) / (1 + d(a,b)), particularly focusing on the triangle inequality. Participants are exploring the mathematical reasoning required to demonstrate this property.

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  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant is attempting to verify the triangle inequality for the new metric e and has expressed difficulty in the process.
  • Another participant suggests rewriting the inequality as a fraction over (1 + a)(1 + b)(1 + c) to simplify the problem.
  • A later reply proposes starting from the conclusion and working backwards to verify the triangle inequality, emphasizing the importance of maintaining the positivity of the terms involved.
  • Further advice includes assuming the triangle inequality holds for the new metric and manipulating the expressions accordingly to confirm the result.

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Participants are engaged in a collaborative effort to solve a mathematical problem, with no consensus reached on the solution yet. Multiple approaches are suggested, indicating a variety of perspectives on how to tackle the verification of the triangle inequality.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully resolved the mathematical steps involved in proving the triangle inequality, and there may be assumptions regarding the positivity of the terms that are not explicitly stated.

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I'm trying to verify that if (M,d) is a metric space, then (N,e) is a metric space where e(a,b) = d(a,b) / (1 + d(a,b)). Everything was easy to verify except the triangle inequality. All I need is to show that:

a <= b + c
implies
a / (1 + a) <= (b / (1 + b)) + (c / (1 + c)

Any help would be greatly appreciated, thank you!
 
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hi pdonovan! :smile:

try writing everything as a fraction over (1 + a)(1 + b)(1 + c), and seeing what cancels :wink:
 
Thank you for the tip, but I still haven't figured it out : /

I have
a<=b+c
-->
a/[(1+a)(1+b)(1+c)] <= (b+c)/[(1+a)(1+b)(1+c)]
-->
a/[(1+a)(1+b)(1+c)] <= b/[(1+a)(1+b)(1+c)] + c/[(1+a)(1+b)(1+c)]
 
(just got up :zzz: …)

no, start at the answer, and work backwards! :rolleyes:
 
like tiny-tim said, write down the triangle inequality for the new metric and assume it's true. then multiply both sides by (1+a)(1+b)(1+c) (since it's positive) and then "work backwards" as tiny-tim said. then see if you can reversely do all the steps from the opposite direction. if you can, (and you can), then you're done.
 

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