Is light wave also transverse in media?

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The discussion centers on whether light remains a transverse wave when it propagates through different media, particularly focusing on isotropic versus anisotropic materials, as well as the implications of longitudinal electric fields in various contexts.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that light is a transverse wave in vacuum, but question its behavior in media.
  • Others argue that in anisotropic media, such as crystals, the electric vectors D and E may not be parallel, leading to complexities in classifying light as purely transverse.
  • It is noted that in plasmas, there exists a longitudinal mode associated with plasma oscillations, which complicates the classification of light waves.
  • One participant explains that in linear, uniform, and isotropic media, the equations governing light behave similarly to those in vacuum, suggesting that transverse waves can propagate in such conditions.
  • Another participant raises a question about the appropriateness of treating the longitudinal electric field as part of the light wave, referencing the scalar potential in the context of the Coulomb gauge.
  • There is a discussion about the applicability of Maxwell's equations in free space versus in media, with some participants emphasizing that the equations can still be relevant in media if the correct material constants are used.
  • Concerns are expressed regarding the existence of bound charges in media and whether the longitudinal component should be considered part of the wave's characteristics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether light can be classified as a transverse wave in all media, with multiple competing views regarding the behavior of light in anisotropic materials and the role of longitudinal electric fields.

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Limitations include the dependence on the definitions of isotropy and linearity, as well as the unresolved implications of longitudinal components in different media.

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It is no doubt that light is a transverse wave in vaccum. But is it also holds true for the case when light is in a medium?
 
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Not in an anisotropic medium, such as a crystal. That is, when the dielectric constant ε depends on direction. Then you find that the two electric vectors D and E are not even parallel. D is transverse, but E is not.
 
Also in a plasma there is a longitudinal mode, related to plasma oscillations (plasmons).
 
To answer the OP more directly, if the medium is linear, uniform and isotropic, then all of the electrodynamic equations look the same, except that the permeability/permittivity of free space constants get replaced with the permeability/permittivity constants of the material. As a result, transverse plane waves propagate in such a medium in the same way as in vacuum. This is the most common case in everyday life (such as light traveling in water or glass). If the medium is not linear, uniform, or isotropic, then you get extra things happening.
 
But if we express the Maxwell equation with potential in Coulmb gauge,
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\begin{gathered} {\nabla ^2}\varphi = - \rho /{\varepsilon _0}\quad ,\quad {{\boldsymbol{E}}_{\text{L}}} = - \nabla \varphi \\
\square {{\boldsymbol{A}}_{\text{T}}} = {\mu _0}{{\boldsymbol{J}}_{\text{T}}}\quad ,\quad {{\boldsymbol{E}}_{\text{T}}} = - \frac{{\partial {{\boldsymbol{A}}_{\text{T}}}}}{{\partial t}}\quad ,\quad {\boldsymbol{B}} = \nabla \times {{\boldsymbol{A}}_{\text{T}}} \\ \end{gathered}
<br /> we can see that the scalar potential which corresponds to the longitudinal electric field does not satisfy the wave equation. So is it appropriate to treat the longitudinal electric field as one component of the light wave?
 
blenx, all those equations you just wrote are the free-space (vacuum) versions of Maxwell's equations. I thought from your OP you were curious about waves in matter. The Coulomb gauge is typically only useful in free space, or in linear, uniform, isotropic materials which act like free space as long as you use the right permittivity/permeability of the material in the equations. Those equations show that traveling electromagnetic waves in free space are transverse, although there is a non-traveling near-field longitudinal component.
 
chrisbaird said:
To answer the OP more directly, if the medium is linear, uniform and isotropic, then all of the electrodynamic equations look the same, except that the permeability/permittivity of free space constants get replaced with the permeability/permittivity constants of the material.
You should at least add not optically active to you list of conditions or absence of spatial dispersion in more generality.
 
chrisbaird said:
blenx, all those equations you just wrote are the free-space (vacuum) versions of Maxwell's equations. I thought from your OP you were curious about waves in matter. The Coulomb gauge is typically only useful in free space, or in linear, uniform, isotropic materials which act like free space as long as you use the right permittivity/permeability of the material in the equations. Those equations show that traveling electromagnetic waves in free space are transverse, although there is a non-traveling near-field longitudinal component.

The equations I wrote are general, as long as the charge/current density is understood as the bound charge/current density in media. Of course one can use the polarization and magnetization to replace them, but that dose not change the number of unkonwn quantities. From the equations in Coulmb gauge, one can immediately know that the origin of the longitudinal electric field in media is the existence of the bound charges. What confuses me is whether such longitudinal component should be regarded as the wave's component.
 

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