Need to find out the name of this alloy

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The discussion focuses on identifying a specific alloy based on its composition, which includes iron, carbon, chromium, nickel, and silicon. Participants explore the potential classification of the alloy, considering its properties and similarities to known steel types, particularly within the tool steels family.

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  • One participant suggests the alloy may belong to the tool steels family based on its composition.
  • Another participant describes it as a high-carbon, low alloy nickel-chromium steel, noting its similarity to some tool steels and pointing out the absence of manganese or molybdenum in the composition.
  • A later reply questions the accuracy of the composition, suggesting that the chromium and nickel levels might be slightly higher than reported, and asks what the alloy would be in that case.
  • Another participant argues that the alloy appears to be non-standard, as most similar alloys contain manganese and less or no silicon, providing examples of SAE grades that do not match the given composition.
  • Resources are shared for further investigation, including links to metallurgical handbooks and suggestions for searching specific alloy databases.

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Participants express differing views on the classification of the alloy, with no consensus reached on its exact identity. Some believe it is a variant of known alloys, while others suggest it may be a non-standard composition.

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Participants note potential missing elements in the composition, such as manganese, which could affect the classification. There is also uncertainty regarding the accuracy of the reported chromium and nickel percentages.

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I have the composition for this alloy that I have to find out which metallic material it is supposed to be:

Fe:96.23%
C:0.623%
Cr:1.098%
Ni:1.0028%
Si:0.4219

My guess it it is among the tool steels family but I can't be sure...
 
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It's a high-carbon (C > 0.6%, but just barely), low alloy nickel-chromium steel. It is similar to some tool steels.

http://www.keytometals.com/Articles/Art62.htm
nickel-chromium steels

Many steels of this level have some Mn or Mo in them.

I haven't found a carbon steel with 1%Cr, 1%Ni 0.4%Si, although a few are close.

Similar alloy compositions have either higher Ni or Cr.

The sum of the C, Cr, Ni, Si = 3.1457%

The total Fe, C, Cr, Ni, Si = 99.3757%, so is there something missing (e.g., ~0.6243% Mn), or the Cr or Ni is a bit higher?
 
It might be that Cr and Ni are a bit higher since I wrote the composition off of some software that we have at Lab. If that is the case then what will the alloy be?
 
The alloy seems to be a non-standard alloy. Most of what I can readily find contains Mn and less or no Si.

Code:
             C         Mn       Cr         Ni
SAE 3150 0.48/0.53 0.70/0.90 0.70/0.90 1.10/1.40
SAE 3250 0.45/0.55 0.30/0.60 0.90/1.25 1.50/2.00

So it could be a derivative of 3260, but the Ni of one's sample is too low.

Si is not part of the 3100 or 3200 series, and they have Mn. In one's sample, the Si is at the roughly the same mid-range value of the Mn level for 3260.

These may be of use:
http://www.timken.com/en-us/Knowled...s/Timken_Practical_Data_For_Metallurgists.pdf
http://www.secowarwick.com/htdb/HeatTreatingDataEBook.2011.pdf

One could try to find an electronic copy of Woldman's engineering alloys By Norman Emme Woldman, John P. Frick, and search for C 0.6 and then try to find alloys with about 1% each of Cr and Ni, and 0.4% Si.
 
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