What is differential of Alloy and MMC?

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The discussion revolves around the differences between alloys, metal matrix composites (MMCs), and nano-composites, focusing on their structural composition and phases. Participants explore various aspects of these materials, including their microstructures, properties, and the implications of particle size.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that MMCs are derived from two different metals, with one not melting in the same way as alloys, potentially leading to new reactions.
  • There is a suggestion that the differences in alloys and composites can be observed through their structural composition and phases.
  • One participant questions whether a specific alloy/composite system is being discussed, indicating the variety of such systems.
  • Concerns are raised about the type of nano-composite being referenced, with distinctions made between dispersed oxides and other types.
  • Weight, strength, temperature, and corrosive environments are mentioned as important considerations in the discussion of these materials.
  • Another participant notes that MMCs and alloys appear similar at the microstructural level, with distinctions arising from particle size and composition.
  • There is a clarification that on the nano-level, differences may be found in crystal structure and stoichiometry, with examples provided of second-phase particles in certain alloys.

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Participants express varying levels of understanding and knowledge about the subject, with some acknowledging their limitations. There is no clear consensus on the definitions or distinctions between the materials discussed, indicating that multiple competing views remain.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express difficulty in articulating their thoughts in English, which may affect the clarity of the discussion. The complexity of the topic and the variety of materials mentioned contribute to the uncertainty in the conversation.

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We can find differential of alloy and composite. MMC is came from 2 differential of metal, one from it aren't melting same as producing alloy. but there are might produce new reaction. ex: C with Fe, the name is carbon steel. the nano-composite just too, but the particle aren't big, and the size is nano. the differential of it came from the coefficient electric, the composite aren't count without experiment. but what is differential of alloy, MMC and metal nano-composite, when it see from structure composition and phase?
 
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Welcome, Mufidun. I can tell that you're trying very hard to express yourself in English, which obviously isn't your first language. Unfortunately, the sad fact is that I simply cannot understand what you are trying to say. Sorry. Can you perhaps find another way to express it?
 
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mufidun said:
We can find differential of alloy and composite. MMC is came from 2 differential of metal, one from it aren't melting same as producing alloy. but there are might produce new reaction. ex: C with Fe, the name is carbon steel. the nano-composite just too, but the particle aren't big, and the size is nano. the differential of it came from the coefficient electric, the composite aren't count without experiment. but what is differential of alloy, MMC and metal nano-composite, when it see from structure composition and phase?
Is one asking about a specific alloy/composite system, of which there are many?

What type of nano-composite? Dispersed oxide? or other?

See some basic considerations here - http://www.wiley-vch.de/books/sample/3527313605_c01.pdf

Weight is often a consideration, as is strength. Then service environment, in which temperature and corrosive media must be considered.

Temperature is important depending on the thermodynamic/chemical stability of the reinforcement (e.g., ceramic or carbon) in the metal matrix.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metal_matrix_composite
 
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Welcome, Mufidun. I can tell that you're trying very hard to express yourself in English, which obviously isn't your first language. Unfortunately, the sad fact is that I simply cannot understand what you are trying to say. Sorry. Can you perhaps find another way to express it?
I'm sorry, i don't have good English vocabulary. i must study again. thanks for your attention.
 
mufidun said:
I'm sorry, i don't have good English vocabulary
No need to apologize; you're doing quite well. I'm totally incapable of learning any other language. English is one of the more difficult ones, and the only reason that I learned it is that it's what I was born into.
 
I'm trying to explain. :)
MMC and alloy when seen from the micro structure is almost as if the MMC has a small particle size, and when compared with nano-composites are made from metal-metal (small size as well), what distinguishes the alloy.

because I want to clarify the explanation of my lecture about the differences alloys and composites.
 
Okay, now the problem is that I don't know enough about the subject. I thought that "nano-composites" would be the same as regular MMC's, with reinforcement material introduced to a matrix (the way glass fibres reinforce the resin in fibreglass). I'm afraid I'm out of my depth here.
 
mufidun said:
I'm trying to explain. :)
MMC and alloy when seen from the micro structure is almost as if the MMC has a small particle size, and when compared with nano-composites are made from metal-metal (small size as well), what distinguishes the alloy.

because I want to clarify the explanation of my lecture about the differences alloys and composites.
On the nano-level, it would be the crystal structure and composition or stoichiometry. There would be a base metal alloy and a separate phase with a different crystal structure and composition, which could labeled a second-phase particle. Clearly one can distinguish a ceramic such as Al2O3 from Al-Mg alloy. In some Ni-based alloys, Ti and Al form second phase particles, Ni3Ti or Ni3Al, in the Ni alloy.

For example, http://www.google.com/patents/US5720829

There are many examples of dispersed second phase particles added for strengthening alloys, e.g., ODS (oxide dispersion strengthened) alloys

http://www.tms.org/superalloys/10.7449/1988/Superalloys_1988_595_604.pdf
 

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