Determining Riemann surface geometry of algebraic functions

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The discussion focuses on determining the geometry of Riemann surfaces from algebraic functions, specifically through the example f(z,w)=(w-1)(w-2)^2(w-3)^3-z=0. Participants explore methods to analyze the function and identify the sheet orders of its manifold, with mentions of Newton Polygon and Newton-Puiseux's Theorem as potential tools. There is a debate about the factorization of f(z,w) and the implications of using fractional powers in the analysis. The conversation highlights the complexities involved in understanding the algebraic structure and geometry of these functions. Overall, the thread emphasizes the need for deeper study in algebraic geometry to grasp these concepts fully.
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Hi, given the algebraic function:

f(z,w)=a_n(z)w^n+a_{n-1}(z)w^{n-1}+\cdots+a_0(z)=0

how can I determine the geometry of it's underlying Riemann surfaces? For example, here's a contrived example:

f(z,w)=(w-1)(w-2)^2(w-3)^3-z=0

That one has a single sheet manifold, a double-sheet and a triple-sheet manifold as best as I can describe it and illustrated by the real part of w(z) shown below and will of course give rise to the expansion

f(z,w)=\left(w-g(z)\right)\left(w-h(z^{1/2})\right)\left(w-u(z^{1/3})\right)=0
or:

f(z,w)=\left(w-\text{red}\right)\left(w-\text{gold}\right)\left(w-\text{purple}\right)=0

which is my interest in this problem and I've not split up the factoring into separate single-valued terms, i.e., gold and purple are multi-valued. However, is there a method to determine this manifold geometry for the general case just by an analysis of the function f(z,w)? I know the Newton Polygon procedure can determine this indirectly but I believe that has limitations and will not work for certain functions. I was wondering is there is another way. That is, given f(z,w), is there some (exact) algebraic operation on it I can perform and obtain the sheet orders which in the contrived case above would be 1,2, and 3?

Thanks,
 

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well in the first place, any example like the second explicit one, is trivial, because it is a graph. i.e. there is a holomorphic map from the complex w- line isomorphically onto the zero locus,

sending w to (w-1)(w-2)^2(w-3)^3. the map in the other direction taking (w,z) to w, is inverse to it, so your example is isomorphic to the complex w - line.

i have written detailed notes on this topic but they are not on my website yet.

the book i taught out of is the one by rick miranda. it is excellent.

here are some of my notes. there is another one i want to attach but the browser will not let me since it says i have already attached it to the thread "what is the genus of a riemann surface?" maybe you can find that thread here.

https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=552121&highlight=genus+riemann+surface
 

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Thanks for helping me on this Mathwonk. I see I have a long way to go and am planning to study algebraic geometry. For now though, would you have time to show me how

f(z,w)=2z^4+z^2w+4zw^2+4w^3=0

could be analyzed to conclude the factorization of f(z,w) near z=0 can be written as

f(z,w)=\left(w-g(z)\right)\left(w-h(z^{1/2})\right)?
 
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well that looks unlikely, since the product of those factors is quadratic in w, not cubic. where are you getting these answers you ask me to verify? where are you trying to factor these equations, in the power series k[[z,w]]?

no i see you are using fractional powers of z. maybe that changes the total degree of w, but i don't se why instantly. have you looked at walker's little book, algebraic plane curves? he treats fractional power series. I am sorry I am not expert enough to answer this off the top of my head.

maybe when i have ,more time i can look at it more but I am sorry I am too busy for the time being to learn this theory before answering.
 
That's ok Mathwonk. I figured you are busy. Thanks for the Walker reference and the other references above. They're helpful. Also, I'm afraid I used an abuse of notation above. That's really three factors:

f(z,w)=\left(w-g(z)\right)\left(w-h(\epsilon_1z^{1/2})\right)\left(w-h(\epsilon_2 z^{1/2})\right)

however the two factors of h(z^{1/2}) come from the same 2-valued manifold, just different single-valued determinations of it. Just thought my condenced notation was cleaner-looking.

And the expansion comes from Newton-Puiseux's Theorem:

The quotient field \mathbb{C}((z^*)) of convergent fractional power series (which I assume includes all analytic functions) is algebraically closed so for f(z,w)=a_n(z)w^n+\cdots+a_0(z), with a_i(z)\in \mathbb{C}((z^*)), we have

f(z,w)=\prod_{i=1}^n \left(w-g_i(z^{1/k_i})\right)

with g_i(z^{1/k_i})\in\mathbb{C}((z^*)). One reason I knew the expansion was in terms of g(z) and h(z^{1/2}), is because I drew it:

(Not entirely sure I'm quoting that theorem precisely. This is all very new to me.)
 

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