Implicit Definition and 520 Threads

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    Find y'' by implicit differentiation

    Find y'' by implicit differentiation x^4+y^4=1 i found that y'=-x^3/y^3 y''=[(y^3)(-3x^2)-(-x^3)(3y^2)(y')]/(y^3)^2 y''=[-3x^2(y^3)-(-x^3)(3y^2)(-x^3/y^3)]/y^6 then i am stuck...please help...thanks
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    How to check implicit differentiation results with calculator?

    What would be the best way to check the result of implicit differentiation with a TI calculator?
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    Checking implicit differentiation answers?

    How would you check your answer using a Ti86 for implicit diferentiation problems? I was looking through some source code at ticalc.org and found this tidbit for an implict differentiation section: (after given a point x and y, with function F1) If der1(F1,y)==0 [exit] else...
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    Can Implicit Differentiation Be Used to Solve for dy/dx?

    Hi, here is my problem. I think it has something to do with me not completely understanding implicit differentiation. I have to find \frac{dy}{dx} of x^2+5yx+y^5=8 To do this, I differentiated the x^2 as 2x then I used the product rule to differentiate 5xy into 5y + \frac{dy}{dx} * 5x. I...
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    Implicit differentiation and a bicorn curve

    Hey all. There's a question I seem to be stuck on involving implict differentiation. Here it is: The curve called a bicorn has the equation (x^2+8y-16)^2=y^2(16-x^2) Verify by implicit differentiation that its tangent lines at the points (0,4) and (0,\frac{4}{3}) are horizontal. Do by...
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    Implicit diff (2 var), error or what?

    i am working on a homework assignment. it's easy, or, so i think... Given. 3x^2 - xy^3 + sin(x^3 - y) = 4 Find \frac{dy}{dx} not a problem. i ended up with \frac{dy}{dx} = \frac {6x - y^3 + 3x^2 cos(x^3 - y)}{3xy^2 + cos(x^3 - y)} using implicit differention. now...
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    Verification of Implicit Differentiation

    Help with Implicit Differentiation Hello all If we are given \cos xy = 2x^2 - 3y find \frac {dy}{dx} So the derivative of \cos xy is - sin(xy)(x)(\frac{dy}{dx} + y) The derivative of the RHS is 4x - 3 \frac {dy}{dx} Hence \-sin(xy)(x)\frac{dy}{dx} + y = 4x - 3 \frac...
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    How do I find v' for functions v=x+y using implicit differentiation?

    Say we have two functions of x, v and y, such that v=x+y. How can I find v'?
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    How do I find the derivative of y using implicit differentiation?

    Hello all Given: x^2 + xy + y^2 - 7 = 0, solve for y using the quadratic forumula. Then find dy/dx at P(1,2) from a function of the form f(x). My solution: y = -x (+/-) sqrt( x^2 - 28) / 2. I am not sure if this is correct. After solving for y, do you have to implicitly take the...
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    Finding y' by implicit differentiation SO HARD FOR ME help~

    Find dy/dx by implicit differentiation. (Meaning find the derivative of y.. so y' = ??) cos(x-y)=xe^x Please help and show step by step.. the final answer should be.. y' = 1 + [(e^x)(1+x)]/[sin(x+y)] Thanks a bunch. :smile:
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    How Do You Derive the Slope from the Equation 2xy^2+xy=y?

    taking derivitive of 2xy^2+xy=y split up to using product rule 2x----2 y^2---2y\frac{dy}{dx} 4yx\frac{dy}{dx}+2y^2+y+x\frac{dy}{dx}=\frac{dy}{dx} \frac{dy}{dx} (4x+x-1)=-2y^2-y \frac{dy}{dx}= \frac{-2y^2-y}{4xy+x-1} i am trying to figure out the slope of the equation...
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    Use implicit differentiation to find the points of tangency

    Please Help! Ok, I am having problem with an Implicit differentiation problem... Two tangent lines to the hyperbola 9x^2 - y^2 =36 intersect at the y-axis. Use implicit differentiation to find the points of tangency. Ok so i implicitly differentiated this function and i came up with y'=...
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    How do you find the second derivative using implicit differentiation?

    Hi all: How would you find the second derivative of 2x^3 - 3y^2 = 8? I know the first derivative is x^2 / y. Would I use the quotient rule, or would I use some type of substitution and then use the product rule? Any help is greatly appreciated! Thanks
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    Having a hard time with 2 implicit equations

    First off, I must say I truly enjoy these forums, though I tend to shy away from Calculus. Calculus and I just don't seem to get along, which is strange since I really enjoy other forms of math. On to the questions. Note, these 3 are the ones I just can not seem to work through on an...
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    Inverse and Implicit Function theorems

    Hello all, Can somebody give a 'simple to understand' proof for the 'Implicit Function Theorem' and the 'Inverse Function Theorem',their significance, applications and some examples. I have tried some books on Multivariable calculus, but in vain... :cry:
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    Finding Turning Points on a Curve with Implicit Differentiation

    find the turning points on the curve with equation y^3 + 3xy^2 - x^3 = 3 I'm confused bout the 3xy^2 mostly, i kno that xy goes to (y+x dy/dx) but not sure what 2 do bout the power...
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    Implicit Differentiation: Finding Points on an Ellipse Tangent to a Box

    My TA did not get the chance to go over this problem. I know that I'm supposed to differentiate both sides of the equation. But I have not the slightest idea what to do after that. I was told that I am supposed to get out 4 points that lie on the ellipse and the sides of the box are tangent...
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    Implicit Differentiation Problem (stuck at a point)

    Here is the problem: Find the equation of the line which is tangent to the curve at the point (1,3): 8x^3y^2 + x^2y^5 + 6 = 4y^4 - 3x^4 Here is what I've done so far (I'm stuck now): (24x^2)(y^2) + (8x^3)(2y dy/dx) + (2x)(y^5) + (x^2)(5y^4 dy/dx) = (16y^3 dy/dx) + 12x^3 Where do...
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    Can someone explain Implicit Differentiation and Related Rates in Calculus?

    Hi. I'm taking a Calculus course right now and I simply cannot understand Implicit Differentiation or the Related Rate problems. My textbook does not do a good job explaining it. It is a very accelerated class and I cannot get it and I need to know it in two days for a mid term. I just don't...
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    Problem that uses implicit differentiation

    Can u please give me an example of a problem that use implicit differentiation to find the derivative of an inverse function and of relations. Plz also explain to me what relation means in this case. Thanks also please give me an example that use the definite integral to compute accumulated...
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