2.4.10 3 circles one intersection

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The discussion revolves around finding the intersection point of three circles defined by their equations. Participants explore various methods for solving the problem, including algebraic approaches and the concept of limits.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant claims to have found the intersection point (1,1) through algebraic manipulation of the circle equations but suggests there may be other methods.
  • Another participant proposes using the concept of the radical center and suggests finding lines through the intersection points of the circles to determine the solution.
  • A subsequent reply corrects the previous suggestion, indicating that the circles intersect and that the correct approach involves finding chords joining the intersection points.
  • One participant questions whether the intersection point could be considered a limit, implying a more abstract approach to the solution.
  • Another participant asks for clarification on the term "limit" in this context.
  • Further replies discuss the nature of limits, with one participant asserting that the intersection point is straightforward to locate and does not require limit-based reasoning.
  • Another participant expresses a preference for algebraic solutions over numerical approaches, suggesting that while limits could be used, they are not necessary in this case.

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Participants express differing views on the methods for finding the intersection point, with some favoring algebraic solutions while others explore the concept of limits. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to take.

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Participants reference various mathematical concepts, including the radical center and chords, but there is no consensus on the most effective method for solving the problem. The discussion includes corrections and refinements of earlier claims.

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$\tiny{\textbf{2.4.10}}$
$\begin{array}{rl}
(x+4)^2+(y+11)^2&=169 \\
(x-9)^2+(y+5)^2&=100 \\
(x-4)^2+(y-5)^2&=25
\end{array}$

ok i solved this by a lot of steps and got (1,1) as the intersection of all 3 circles
these has got to be other options to this.
basically I expanded the equations then set them equal to each other but what a mess:unsure:

suggestions?
I was thinking about a matrix but not sure how to set it up

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You can use this concept from the family of circles that $S_1 =0$ and $S_2 =0$ are two given circles intersecting each other then $S_1 - S_2 =0$ gives the equation of the line passing through those points.
For this question find any two lines using this and find their intersection point which will be your answer (here all the lines will be tangents)
 
There is a correction in my above statement I did not look at the figure carefully and typed about how to find the radical centre and equation of tangent which is wrong because one of the two circles are intersecting so... The correct one is --->>

Solving $S_1 - S_2=0 $ will give the equation of chord joining the intersecting points... Find any two such chords then you have two equations and two unknowns (x,y).
 
just curious could the point of intersection of 3 circles be a limit

we are basically solving by deduction
 
what do you mean by limit?
 
basically are we not approaching a point?
 
I don't think so... We use limits when it is difficult to approach but here it is very easy to locate that point.
 
so basic algebra is the only way it can be done 😕
 
karush said:
so basic algebra is the only way it can be done 😕
I see the limit procedure as more of a numerical approach. We can, of course, try to solve it numerically. The algebraic solution is much better to my mind.

-Dan
 

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