2 Cords affixed at different points are wrapped on a disc

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The discussion centers on the motion of two cords affixed at different points and wrapped around a disc, emphasizing that while the cords are inextensible and must exhibit circular motion, they also undergo translational motion due to the disc's rotation and downward fall. Participants agree that the cords cannot solely exhibit rotational motion since their lengths change as the disc moves. The fixed points where the cords attach to the ceiling mean that once a section of the cord unwinds, it only has rotational motion from that point onward. The center of mass of each cord experiences movement both along and perpendicular to its orientation. Ultimately, the problem requires understanding the instantaneous velocity of the disc's center, acknowledging both rotational and translational dynamics.
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Homework Statement
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The hint says the following:
"Since the cords are inextensible, every particle of a cord must be in circular motion about the point where it is affixed to the ceiling. Therefore, the velocities of the points where the cords are leaving the disc are perpendicular to the string"

Due to the fact that the disc is both rotating and falling downward, isn't the cord also have translational motion? Moreover, the length of each cords always changes; there is no way the cords only undergo rotational motion.
 
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Father_Ing said:
isn't the cord also have translational motion?
Yes. Neither the problem statement nor the hint excludes translational motion. But the points where they are affixed to the ceiling are fixed.
Moreover, the length of each cords always changes; there is no way the cords only undergo rotational motion.
I think that is right: the center of mass of each cord moves (both along the cord and perpendicular to the orientation of the cord). But the exercise asks for an instantaneous velocity of the disk center.

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Father_Ing said:
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there is no way the cords only undergo rotational moti
As soon as a portion of string has unwound, its distance from the support point is fixed, so it only has that rotational motion. The portion not yet unwound clearly has other motion.
 
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