2 hanging masses with springs, find spring constant

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around a problem involving two hanging masses connected to springs, where the goal is to find the spring constant. The relevant concepts include Hooke's Law and equilibrium conditions for forces acting on the masses.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of free-body diagrams (FBDs) for each block and the implications of analyzing them separately versus as a combined system. Questions arise regarding the correctness of the equations derived from these diagrams and whether a combined FBD is necessary.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on the approach to take when analyzing the forces acting on the blocks. There is acknowledgment of the correctness of derived equations, but no explicit consensus on the best method has been reached.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the complexities of applying equilibrium equations and the implications of their assumptions regarding the forces involved in the system.

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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations


F=kx (Hooke's Law), ƩFy=0

The Attempt at a Solution


I drew a free-body diagram for each block. For block A, I get the equilibrium equation: Fa = (10kg)(9.81ms^-2) = 98.1N = kx_a
x_a = 300mm-250mm = 50mm
k = 1.962kN/m

For block B I get the equilibrium equation of Fb = 98.1 - Wa = kx_b but it seems as I don't need this equation.

Is this correct, and if not, should I draw a "combined" FBD? If so, how? Thanks.
 
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Hyperfluxe said:
Is this correct, and if not, should I draw a "combined" FBD? If so, how?
Your equation is not obtained from analyzing block A alone, but by treating A and B as a combined object. So you answered your own question, even if you didn't realize it.

If you analyzed A alone, you'd have to include the force from each spring and only the weight of A.
 
Oh I see. From drawing separate FBD's, I get the equations:
kxa = kxb + mag (block A)
kxb = mbg (block B)
Substitute kxb back into the first equation to get kxa = (ma + mb)g, where xa = 300mm - 250mm, thus k = 1.962kN/m.

Is this correct? Thank you.
 
Perfectly correct. Note that your final equation is equivalent to what you did earlier.
 
Thank you for you time and help =)
 

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