2 masses and 2 pulleys (Kleppner and Kolenkow)

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The discussion centers on the constraint equation for a system involving two masses and two pulleys, as presented in "Kleppner and Kolenkow." Participants seek clarification on the division by 2 in the constraint equation for the total length of the strings. It is established that the constraint equation does not accurately represent the total length but rather a fixed quantity related to the system's dynamics. Additionally, the treatment of acceleration (denoted as "a") during the time derivative process is questioned, emphasizing the importance of correctly identifying constants in such equations.

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Masses M1 and M2 are connected to a system of strings and pulleys as shown. The strings are massless and inextensible, and the pulleys are massless and frictionless. Find the acceleration of M1.
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x_1 + L_1 + L'_1 + (x_2 + L_2 + L'_2)/2 = constant C
For the official answer, I would appreciate an explanation as to why there's a division by 2 in the constraint equation for the total length of the strings, and why the way I wrote my constraint equation is incorrect.
 

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AspiringPhysicist12 said:
For the official answer, I would appreciate an explanation as to why there's a division by 2 in the constraint equation for the total length of the strings,
Their constraint equation does not represent the total length of the strings. But it does represent a certain fixed quantity. Try to identify what it represents.
 
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When you took the time derivative of the first equation, did you treat ##a## as a constant?
 

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