2nd order differential equation

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The problem involves a second-order differential equation of the form y²(d²y/dx²) + ay = b(cx - d), where a, b, c, and d are constants. The goal is to find y as a function of x.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss potential methods for tackling the non-linear equation, including substitution and numerical solutions. There is mention of treating the equation as a dynamical system by introducing a new variable u = dy/dx. Some participants express uncertainty about the existence of a general solution and the nature of solutions, suggesting that elliptic functions may be involved.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring various interpretations and approaches to the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the complexity of non-linear equations and the potential for writing the equation as a system of equations to gain insights into the solution.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the challenge posed by the non-linear nature of the equation and the lack of a standard method for solving such equations, particularly those involving powers of y as coefficients. There is an acknowledgment of the difficulty in finding explicit solutions, even with specified initial conditions.

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[tex]y^{2}\frac{d^{2}y}{dx^2}[/tex] + ay = b(cx-d)

Find y as a function of x,a,b,c & d (a,b,c & d are all constant(!))

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Not a clue, this is actually how far I got with my own take on an orbital mechanics problem I made up. Not my homework (I swear!). My guess would be some kind of substitution, but I don't know how to go about it.

P.S. Sorry about the alignment, but my mastery of LaTeX is minimal :wink:. As is probably obvious, the unformatted bit should be on a level with the y^2 at the start.
 
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Nothing immediately screams out at me, the think I might be tempted to try is write $u=dy/dx$ and then treat it as a dynamical system. Other than that, solve it numerically?
 
That is a very non-linear equation and, like all non-linear equations, will be very difficult to solve, even for specified initial conditions. In fact, there might not be a single formula that will give all solutions and, even if there is, I would not expect it to be in terms of elementary functions. You say this came from "an orbital mechanics problem". Those tend to give elliptic function solutions.
 
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Those tend to give elliptic function solutions.

Yes, I think that's probably the case, although this was to do with radius/time, rather than cartesian. I was just wondering if there was a standard method for solving 2nd order differentials involving powers of y as a coefficient?
 
No, there isn't. As I said before, non-linear equations tend to be very difficult. There is no general way of solving even the simplest non-linear equations.

Sometimes it helps, not so much to "solve" the equation, but to get information about the solution, to write the single equation as a system of equations. If you let v= dy/dx, then [itex]d^2y/dx^2= dv/dx[/itex] so your equation becomes [itex]y^2 dv/dt= -y+ bcx- bd[/itex] so you have the system of equations
[tex]\begin{pmatrix} \frac{dy}{dx}= v \\ \frac{dv}{dx}= -\frac{1}{y}+ \frac{bcx- bd}{y^2}\end{pmatrix}[/tex]
 

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