2x + y = 8, x - z = 2. Solve by elimination and substitution

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The problem involves two equations: 2x + y = 8 and x - z = 2, with the goal of solving for the variables using elimination and substitution methods.

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  • Participants discuss the possibility of expressing variables in terms of one another, noting that with two equations and three variables, not all variables can be uniquely solved. Some suggest specific forms for y and z based on x, while others question the validity of certain approaches.

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The discussion is ongoing, with various interpretations being explored. Some participants have provided guidance on expressing variables in terms of others, while others have raised questions about the correctness of previous statements.

Contextual Notes

There is an acknowledgment of the limitation of having two equations for three variables, which affects the ability to find unique solutions for all variables.

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Homework Statement



2x + y = 8, x - z = 2. Solve by elimination and substitution

Homework Equations



2x + y = 8, x - z = 2

The Attempt at a Solution



It cannot be solved by elimination or substitution.
 
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You can solve for y and z in terms of x.
 
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To add to LCKurtz's response, you have two equations with three variables. You can solve for any of the following:

  • x and y in terms of z
  • x and z in terms of y
  • y and z in terms of x
But you cannot solve for all three.
 
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What I would do is say that, from the first equation, y= 8- 2x, and from the second equation, z= x- 2.

That is, any (x, y, z) satisfying these equations is of the form (x, 8- 2x, x- 2).

Or if you prefer "parametric equations", (x, y, z) satisfies those equation if and only if x= t, y= 8- 2t, and z= t- 2. Those points lie on a straight line in "three-space". Geometrically, a line is determined by two points. This line is the line that passes through (0, 8, -2) and (2, 4, 0).
 
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Oops! My "correction" was erroneous.

Apologies.
 
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oay said:
z=x+2

If you want to add knowledge, please don't confuse matters by getting basic things wrong.

Everything HallsofIvy said was 100% correct. Where do you think he was wrong?
 
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Ray Vickson said:
Everything HallsofIvy said was 100% correct. Where do you think he was wrong?
Correct. Sorry to both you and HoI.
 
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