30kv .3mA DC power supply tips?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the design and construction of a high voltage power supply for capillary electrophoresis, specifically targeting a voltage range of 5-30kV with a current of 0.3mA. Participants explore various circuit designs, components, and safety considerations, as well as budget constraints for the project.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses interest in creating a high voltage power supply that can be adjusted in 5kV increments, powered by 5 or 12V DC, and suggests the need for exotic circuits.
  • Another participant mentions the Cockcroft–Walton circuit as a potential solution but notes the difficulty of using it with 12V DC due to the requirement of many stages.
  • A suggestion is made that a budget of around $200 might allow for purchasing a ready-built power supply or the necessary parts to construct one.
  • One participant proposes using an inverter connected to a high voltage transformer, emphasizing safety concerns and the likelihood that custom designs will exceed the $20 budget.
  • Another participant references using a TV line output flyback transformer, suggesting it could be obtained cheaply and paired with a switching circuit, and offers a link to DIY instructions.
  • A later reply mentions a personal patent related to high voltage power supplies, indicating a prototype that meets the requirements with minimal effort and cost, but notes a long wait for publication.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present multiple competing views on the best approach to constructing the power supply, with no consensus reached on a specific method or design. Safety concerns are acknowledged, but opinions on budget and feasibility vary.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying assumptions about the feasibility of achieving the desired specifications within the stated budget, and there are unresolved questions regarding the practicality of the proposed circuits and components.

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Individuals interested in DIY electronics, high voltage applications, or those seeking budget-friendly solutions for specific scientific equipment may find this discussion relevant.

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Hello, I interesting in making a high voltage power supply for capillary electrophoresis. Not much power is required and the DC does not need totally noise free so I figure this gives me a lot of flexibility. I would love the ability to adjust the voltage at 5kv increments in maybe a 5-30kv range. It would be great if the voltage could be adjusted/turned on+off using a microcontroller whether I need analog output or to add a relay/transistor it doesn't matter. Also I would prefer to power this supply using either 5 or 12V DC.

Can anyone point me in the right direction? I bet there are some exotic circuits that this would be perfect for.

I am looking for something that uses less then 20$ worth of parts, or a commercially available unit for around that price.

Any help would be great.
 
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I have been looking into a Cockcroft–Walton circuit for this. Apparently it can be run with either AC or pulsed DC.

Running on of these on 12V DC would be a huge pain, around 1000 stages are needed.

Does anyone know of a very low cost high voltage AC generator that runs off 12V that is commercially available?
 
If you had around $200.00 availiable then maybe you could purchase a ready built supply or the parts to build one.
You could check on ebay and you might find a power supply for $20.00.
 
I would suggest using an inverter. You can use your house socket (120 VAC), a transformer (probably a step-up or some other high voltage transformer), some transistors, and switches.

**Safety Warning**
Very high voltage! It can kill you!

Using that stuff would be a hack job though for $20 or less. The specifics that you request (5KV increment) requires custom design which is going to cost more whether you do it yourself or you find a commerical product. Your SAFEST bet is go buy it commerically because then it will most likely be UL listed.
 
This is TV line output flyback territory. You can usually pick one up for a couple of bucks, then build a switching circuit.

There are diy-level instructions at http://www.blazelabs.com/e-exp03.asp , where they are suggesting getting 2.2mA at 30kV from one.

If you can wait 8 months, then [if anyone is interested] I'll pin up here a patent of mine that is currently filed but not published that can also accomplish your requirement with much less effort. (I have a 1 to 20kV 5mA prototype I've been using for HV work for the last year, which I built from new commercial stock parts for a total BOM = 12 euros, and which you can stack in parallel or serial with the same again as it is a DC uncoupled output.)
 

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