3rd order, multi variable taylor polynomial

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The discussion focuses on finding the third-order Taylor polynomial for the function f(x, y) = (e^(x-2y)) / (1 + x^2 - y) at the point (0, 0). Participants emphasize the need for calculations of various partial derivatives at this point to construct the polynomial. The derived polynomial includes terms up to x^3 and y^3, with specific coefficients calculated from the derivatives. There is also a query regarding the multiplication of series, questioning the expected number of terms in the expansion. The conversation highlights the complexity of multivariable Taylor series and the importance of careful derivative calculations.
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any insight to this question? .. i mean.. usually people just do up to order 2..

find the taylor polynomial of order 3 based at (x, y) = (0, 0) for the function f(x, y) = (e^(x-2y)) / (1 + x^2 - y)

how large do you have to take k so that the kth order taylor polynomial f about (0, 0) approximates f within 0.45 for
|x| < sqrt(x^2 + y^2) <= 1/10

my guess is...3rd order.. otherwise they won't be explicitly asking us to for the 3rd order?
 
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find the taylor polynomial of order 3 based at (x, y) = (0, 0) for the function f(x, y) = (e^(x-2y)) / (1 + x^2 - y)

The taylor series expansion of a function f(x,y) about the point (x_0,y_0) is given by

f(x,y)=\sum_{n=0}^{\infty}\sum_{k=0}^{\infty}\frac{\partial ^{n}f (x_0,y_0)}{\partial x^{n}}\cdot\frac{\partial ^{k}f (x_0,y_0)}{\partial y^{k}}\cdot\frac{(x-x_0)^{n}}{n!}\cdot\frac{(y-y_0)^{k}}{k!}​

notice that to obtain the third order Taylor polynomial, we need only sum over n+k\leq 3

We have need of some calculations...

f(x,y)=\frac{e^{x-2y}}{(1+x^2-y)^2}
\Rightarrow f(0,0)=1

f_{x}(x,y)=e^{x-2y}\frac{1-2x+x^2-y}{(1+x^2-y)^2}
\Rightarrow f_{x}(0,0)=1

f_{xx}=e^{x-2y}\frac{-1-4x+8x^2-4x^3+x^4+4xy-2x^2y+y^2}{(1+x^2-y)^3}
\Rightarrow f_{xx}(0,0)=-1

f_{xxx}(x,y)=e^{x-2y}\frac{-5+18x+15x^2-36x^3+21x^4-6x^5+x^6+9y-12xy-18x^2y+12x^3y-3x^4y-3y^2-6xy^2+3x^2y^2-y^3}{(1+x^2-y)^4}
\Rightarrow f_{xxx}(0,0)=-5

f_{y}(x,y)=-e^{x-2y}\frac{1+2x^2-2y}{(1+x^2-y)^2}
\Rightarrow f_{y}(0,0)=-1

f_{yy}(x,y)=2e^{x-2y}\frac{1+2x^2+2x^4-2y-4x^2y+2y^2}{(1+x^2-y)^3}
\Rightarrow f_{yy}(0,0)=2

f_{yyy}(x,y)=-2e^{x-2y}\frac{1+6x^2+6x^4+4x^6-6y-12x^2y-12x^4y+6y^2+12x^2y^2-4y^3}{(1+x^2-y)^4}
\Rightarrow f_{yyy}(0,0)=-2

Our Taylor polynomial of order three is then

f(x,y)\sim\sum_{0\leq n+k\leq 3}\frac{\partial ^{n}f (0,0)}{\partial x^{n}}\cdot\frac{\partial ^{k}f (0,0)}{\partial y^{k}}\cdot\frac{x^{n}}{n!}\cdot\frac{y^{k}}{k!}
=f(0,0)+f_{x}(0,0)x+f_{y}(0,0)y +\frac1{2}f_{xx}(0,0)x^2+f_{x}(0,0)f_{y}(0,0)xy+\frac1{2}f_{yy}(0,0)y^2​
+\qquad\qquad\frac1{6}f_{xxx}(0,0)x^3+\frac1{2}f_{xx}(0,0)f_{y}(0,0)x^2y+\frac1{2}f_{x}(0,0)f_{yy}(0,0)xy^2+\frac1{6}f_{yyy}(0,0)y^3
\boxed{=1+x-y-\frac1{2}x^2-xy+y^2-\frac5{6}x^3+\frac1{2}x^2y+xy^2-\frac1{3}y^3}​
 
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The taylor series expansion of a function f(x,y) about the point (x_0,y_0) is given by

f(x,y)=\sum_{n=0}^{\infty}\sum_{k=0}^{\infty} \frac{\partial ^{n+k}f (x_0,y_0)}{\partial x^{n}\partial y^{k}} \cdot\frac{(x-x_0)^{n}}{n!} \cdot\frac{(y-y_0)^{k}}{k!}​

notice that to obtain the third order Taylor polynomial, we need only sum over n+k\leq 3

We have need of some calculations...

f(x,y)=\frac{e^{x-2y}}{(1+x^2-y)^2}
\Rightarrow f(0,0)=1

f_{x}(x,y)=e^{x-2y}\frac{1-2x+x^2-y}{(1+x^2-y)^2}
\Rightarrow f_{x}(0,0)=1

f_{xx}=e^{x-2y}\frac{-1-4x+8x^2-4x^3+x^4+4xy-2x^2y+y^2}{(1+x^2-y)^3}
\Rightarrow f_{xx}(0,0)=-1

f_{xxx}(x,y)=e^{x-2y}\frac{-5+18x+15x^2-36x^3+21x^4-6x^5+x^6+9y-12xy-18x^2y+12x^3y-3x^4y-3y^2-6xy^2+3x^2y^2-y^3}{(1+x^2-y)^4}
\Rightarrow f_{xxx}(0,0)=-5

f_{y}(x,y)=-e^{x-2y}\frac{1+2x^2-2y}{(1+x^2-y)^2}
\Rightarrow f_{y}(0,0)=-1

f_{yy}(x,y)=2e^{x-2y}\frac{1+2x^2+2x^4-2y-4x^2y+2y^2}{(1+x^2-y)^3}
\Rightarrow f_{yy}(0,0)=2

f_{yyy}(x,y)=-2e^{x-2y}\frac{1+6x^2+6x^4+4x^6-6y-12x^2y-12x^4y+6y^2+12x^2y^2-4y^3}{(1+x^2-y)^4}
\Rightarrow f_{yyy}(0,0)=-2

f_{xy}(x,y)=-e^{x-2y}\frac{1+3x^2-4x^3+2x^4-3y+4xy-4x^2y+2y^2}{(1+x^2-y)^3}
\Rightarrow f_{xy}(0,0)=-1

f_{xyy}(x,y)=2e^{x-2y}\frac{1-2x+3x^2+4x^4-4x^5+2x^6-3y-8x^2y+8x^3y-6x^4y+4y^2-4xy^2+6x^2y^2-2y^3}{(1+x^2-y)^4}
\Rightarrow f_{xyy}(0,0)=2

f_{xxy}(x,y)=-e^{x-2y}\frac{1-8x^2-8x^3+17x^4-8x^5+2x^6+8xy-18x^2y+16x^3y-6x^4y+y^2-8xy^2+6x^2y^2-2y^3}{(1+x^2-y)^4}
\Rightarrow f_{xxy}(0,0)=-1

Our Taylor polynomial of order three is then

f(x,y)\sim\sum_{0\leq n+k\leq 3}\frac{\partial ^{n+k}f (0,0)}{\partial x^{n}\partial y^{k}}\cdot\frac{x^{n}}{n!}\cdot\frac{y^{k}}{k!}
=f(0,0)<br /> +\left( f_{x}(0,0)x+f_{y}(0,0)y\right)
+\left(\frac1{2}f_{xx}(0,0)x^2+f_{xy}(0,0)xy +\frac1{2}f_{yy}(0,0)y^2\right)​
+\left(\frac1{6}f_{xxx}(0,0)x^3+\frac1{2}f_{xxy}(0,0)x^2y +\frac1{2}f_{xyy}(0,0)xy^2+\frac1{6}f_{yyy}(0,0)y^3\right)

\boxed{=1+(x-y)+\left( -\frac1{2}x^2-xy+y^2\right) +\left( -\frac5{6}x^3-\frac1{2}x^2y+xy^2-\frac1{3}y^3\right)}​
 
for the numerator:

\exp^{x}=1+x+\frac{x^{2}}{2!}+\frac{x^{3}}{3!}+...

so we can get:
Expression N:

\exp^{x-2y}=1+(x-2y)+\frac{(x-2y)^{2}}{2!}+\frac{(x-2y)^{3}}{3!}+...

for the denominator:

\frac{1}{1-x} = 1+x+x^{2}+x^{3}+...

so we can get:
Expression D:

\frac{1}{1-(y-x^{2})} = 1+(y-x^{2})+(y-x^{2})^{2}+(y-x^{2})^{3}+...

Get the product of N*D we can get:

\frac{\exp^{x-2y}}{1+x^{2}-y)} =1+(x-y)+\left( -\frac1{2}x^2-xy+y^2\right) +\left( -\frac5{6}x^3-\frac1{2}x^2y+xy^2-\frac1{3}y^3\right)+...
 
I don't understand how you multyplied in that formula , you have 10 terms , shouldn'd you have 16? 4 by 4 since there are 0-3 for x and 0-3 for y ??
 
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