A Ball Rolling : What forces are involved?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the forces acting on a basketball rolling on a level road. Participants explore various forces involved in the motion, including friction, gravity, wind resistance, and rolling resistance, while considering the implications of these forces on the ball's movement.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant identifies gravity, friction, and wind resistance as forces acting against the rolling ball, questioning whether wind resistance is an example of inertia.
  • Another participant introduces rolling resistance as a force, describing it as energy dissipated due to the deformation of the ball.
  • A different participant mentions the normal force exerted by the ground on the ball as a relevant factor.
  • One participant challenges the idea that the normal force works against the rolling motion.
  • A participant elaborates on rolling resistance, suggesting it can be decomposed into energy dissipated from the ball's shape deformation and energy used to overcome the microscopic contact bond between the ball and the ground.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the role of the normal force and its relationship to rolling motion. There is no consensus on the complete set of forces acting on the ball, as multiple competing views remain.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions regarding the definitions of forces and the context of rolling motion may not be fully articulated, leading to potential ambiguity in the discussion.

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Let's say that a basketball was rolling on a road. A completely level road. A road that wasn't downhill or uphill, just straight. So, as its rolling, what forces are working against it? I'm thinking of 3. Gravity and friction. Also wind resistance. Am I correct? Would the wind resistance be an example of inertia?
 
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Also rolling resistance, which is energy dissipated by deformation of the ball.
 
you must also account for normal force that exerts from the ground on the ball
 
The normal force is not working against the rolling.
 
russ_watters said:
Also rolling resistance, which is energy dissipated by deformation of the ball.

I think it is natural to decompose this into two parts:

1) Energy dissipated because of the overall shape deformation of the ball.

2) Energy used to brake the microscopic contact bond between the ball and the ground.

Torquil
 

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