A Basic Function Problem with a Limit

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The discussion revolves around solving a functional equation defined by f(x+y) = f(x) + f(y) + 2xy and the limit condition lim(h→0) f(h)/h = 7. Participants confirmed that f(0) = 0 by substituting x and y with 0. The derivative f'(x) was derived as f'(x) = 7 + 2x, leading to the conclusion that the function f(x) is quadratic, specifically f(x) = x² + 7x. The conversation emphasized the importance of limits and derivatives in solving the problem.

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  • #31
Yes.
 
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  • #32
Cool! Think of a function that has 7 + 2x as its derivative.

(f + g)' = f' + g'

so you can just do it for 7 and 2x and then add the results.
 
  • #33
7x and x^2

Well, x^{2} + 7x
 
  • #34
you got it.
 
  • #35
You might want to talk to your professor or a classmate and find out what they expect you to know so that you can read up on it.
 
  • #36
DMOC said:
\lim_{h \to 0}\frac{f(h)}{h} + \lim_{h \to 0}\frac{2xh}{h}

The second part would just cancel out since it's a straight up 2xh/h problem wher ethe h's cancel. 2x remains.

f ' (x) = 7 + 2x

Just wondering, but how did you replace f(x) with 2xh?

Thanks for helping man ... are you a teacher?

But there's just one more thing I'm confused about after this problem.

\lim_{h \to 0}\frac{f(x+h) - f(x)}{h} is the formula for derivatives as h approaches zero.

However, we eventually ended up with what you see in the quotes.

\lim_{h \to 0}\frac{f(h)}{h} + \lim_{h \to 0}\frac{2xh}{h}

I had to substitute h in for y but you said that I wasn't supposed to do it, but that's how we got there ... thanks again for your help.
 
  • #37
Okay, we started with the definition of a derivative. used the fact that f(x + y) = f(x) + f(y) + 2xy to rewrite the top part of the derivative which is f(x + h) - f(x) as f(x) + f(h) + 2xh - f(x) = f(h) + 2xh.

You should be able to take it from there. Read through the thread again if you need to.
 
  • #38
Got it.

I was wondering why you seemed to have a weird "y" before I realized it was actually a strikethrough. ;)
 
  • #39
Oh my bad man! And here I thought I was being slick! I'll keep that in mind in the future. Sorry for any confusion it may have caused.
 
  • #40
No worries, got it now. :)
 

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