A box sliding down a incline plane

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a 3kg block sliding down a 30-degree incline. The original poster seeks to determine the block's acceleration after it slides 2m in 1.5 seconds, expressing confusion over the formula used to calculate acceleration.

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  • Participants discuss the appropriate kinematic equations for motion under constant acceleration. The original poster questions their understanding of using a simplified formula for acceleration, while others suggest using the standard kinematic equation.

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Some participants have provided guidance on the correct approach to the problem, emphasizing the need for a specific kinematic equation. The discussion includes attempts to clarify why the original poster's formula may not yield the expected results, indicating a productive exploration of the topic.

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There is a focus on the initial conditions of the problem, such as the block starting from rest and the need to consider the effects of constant acceleration. The conversation also highlights the importance of understanding the relationship between units and formulas in physics.

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A 3kg block starts from rest at the top of a 30degree incline and slides a distance of 2m down the incline in 1.5s find the magnitude of the acceleration.

I have always though to find the acceleration you can just use x/(t*t) but i use this formula but i couldn't get the same as the book. is there something wrong with my understanding?
 
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Your formula is incorrect.

You need to use the basic kinematic equation for motion under constant acceleration here. If you happen to need anything else, just differentiate it with respect to time
x(t)=x_0+v_0t+\tfrac{1}{2}at^2

Consider the case where the mass starts at rest, with x_0=0
 
semc said:
A 3kg block starts from rest at the top of a 30degree incline and slides a distance of 2m down the incline in 1.5s find the magnitude of the acceleration.

I have always though to find the acceleration you can just use x/(t*t) but i use this formula but i couldn't get the same as the book. is there something wrong with my understanding?
Write down the relevant equations.
Show your calculations.
 
RoyalCat said:
Your formula is incorrect.

You need to use the basic kinematic equation for motion under constant acceleration here. If you happen to need anything else, just differentiate it with respect to time
x(t)=x_0+v_0t+\tfrac{1}{2}at^2

Consider the case where the mass starts at rest, with x_0=0

can you explain why can't i just use x/(t*t) ?
 
x/(t*t) is the units of acceleration. For example meters per second squared

\frac {m/s^2}
 
Want to learn said:
x/(t*t) is the units of acceleration. For example meters per second squared

\frac {m/s^2}

It is not, however, the formula for the distance traveled. It may share the same units, but it's off by a factor of two.

Let's begin with the basics. We want to develop the kinematic equation for one dimensional motion under constant acceleration:

Our only givens are the initial position with respect to some origin, the initial velocities and accelerations with respect to a certain frame of reference, and the fact that the acceleration is constant.

a(t)=constant
Taking the indefinite integral over time:

v(t)=a\cdot t + C

C=v_0

v(t)=a\cdot t+v_0

We have now found an expression for the velocity as a function of time.

Taking the indefinite integral over time once more yields:

x(t)=\tfrac{1}{2}a\cdot t^2 +v_0\cdot t + C

C=x_0

x(t)=\tfrac{1}{2}a\cdot t^2 +v_0\cdot t + x_0

Q.E.D.

Just to elaborate on the point that has you confused though, differentiate the expression \tfrac{1}{2}at^2 with respect to time.
Remember, (ax^n)'=anx^{n-1}
 

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