A doubt on Rutherford's Scattering experiment

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The discussion centers on Rutherford's Scattering experiment, specifically contrasting the plum pudding model with the nuclear model of atomic structure. The plum pudding model suggests that positive charge is evenly distributed throughout the atom, leading to diminished electric repulsion as an alpha particle approaches. In contrast, the nuclear model posits that positive charge is concentrated at the nucleus, resulting in significantly greater electric repulsion, quantified as 1E10 times stronger at a fraction of the distance. This fundamental difference explains the observed behavior of alpha particles during scattering experiments.

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  • Understanding of atomic models, specifically the plum pudding model and the nuclear model.
  • Familiarity with electric charge and forces, particularly Coulomb's law.
  • Knowledge of Gauss' law and its implications for electric fields.
  • Basic grasp of particle physics, especially regarding alpha particles and their interactions with atoms.
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Rishabh Narula
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Please refer to the image attached for the question.thanks.
 

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Rishabh Narula said:
Please refer to the image attached for the question.thanks.

Why are you unable to post your question on here rather than on the document. It makes for quoting the exact parts of your question tedious!

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Your bullet analogy is imperfect but can work. Post the text and your question HERE if you want to know more.
 
The expectation has nothing to do with where the mass is located. It is all about where the CHARGE is located. In the plum pudding model the positive charge of the atom is spread evenly throughout a sphere the size of the atom. The electrons are buried in the positive charge. As the alpha particle approaches an atom it feels the electric repulsion from the positive charge (forget the electrons for a second). However the maximum force is felt at the surface of the atom. Beyond that the force diminishes. Think of Gauss’ law. All of the positive charge outside the radius currently reached by the alpha particle imparts no net force. As the alpha particle approaches the center of the atom, the electric repulsion actually goes to zero. Contrast this with the nuclear model with all the charge concentrated at the center. The alpha particle can feel the full force of the nuclear charge at 1/100000 the radius. The force is proportional to 1/r^2, so the largest possible force is 1E10 greater than is possible in the plum pudding model! Of course you have to integrate force over the interaction time to get the maximum possible impulse in each model. However, you can appreciate how the maximum possible impulse in the nuclear model is still tremendously greater than in the plum pudding model.
 
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