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- Author: Bernard Schutz
- Title: A First Course in General Relativity
- Amazon Link: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0521887054/?tag=pfamazon01-20
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The discussion revolves around the book "A First Course in General Relativity" by Bernard Schutz, focusing on its suitability as an introductory text for general relativity (GR) and its treatment of related mathematical concepts, particularly differential geometry and tensors. Participants share their experiences and opinions on the book's strengths and weaknesses compared to other texts in the field.
Participants express a mix of agreement and disagreement regarding the effectiveness of Schutz's book as an introductory text. While some appreciate its accessibility, others critique its lack of rigor in mathematical treatment, indicating a lack of consensus on its overall value.
Participants highlight limitations in Schutz's treatment of differential geometry and the varying expectations of readers based on their prior knowledge. The discussion reflects differing preferences for introductory versus comprehensive texts in the field of general relativity.
This seems to be true of many *undergraduate* GR texts. They all seem to take this "physics first" standpoint which may work for some undergraduate students but me personally I cannot stand all the hand waving. If you are just coming out of your first intermediate mechanics class then this book or Hartle will probably do you justice but if you have already learned smooth manifolds (I have looked at spivak's volume 1 and the problems are brutal compared to the ones in Lee haha) then this kind of book would probably move too slowly in terms of the mathematics. In that case Wald is probably a *considerably* better choice (or Carroll but like you I think Wald is better because he is more precise with the math). The thing is though, books like Wald tend to focus on the math SO much that the down to Earth physics gets totally lost and for things like that a book like this would be pretty good (like I said the chapters on gravitational waves and the one on interior solutions for stars). Anyways if the person wanting to start GR feels he/she is not ready to do a graduate level text but finds the math in the typical US undergraduate texts like Hartle move too slow I still hold strong that the book by Hughston and Tod works well to bridge the gap but it assumes prior knowledge of SR (this book is used for undergraduate applied math majors at Oxford). By the way Fredrik have you checked out the book on SR by Rindler. IMO that book is the best out there for SR; it covers things like Thomas Precession which Schutz doesn't.Fredrik said:This book has a reputation for being the easiest (or at least one of the easiest) introductions to GR, and it probably is. But the reason it's easy is that it does everything it can to avoid differential geometry...
So the book has an excellent treatment of tensors outside of the context of differential geometry, but a (deliberately) very weak presentation of differential geometry.
I have not. I mean, I know I've had a quick look inside it at some point, but I don't even remember what I thought at the time.WannabeNewton said:By the way Fredrik have you checked out the book on SR by Rindler. IMO that book is the best out there for SR; it covers things like Thomas Precession which Schutz doesn't.