A.I. - Human Job Replacement

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The discussion revolves around the potential impact of artificial intelligence (A.I.) on various professions, particularly focusing on engineering and its future viability as a human endeavor. Participants explore the implications of A.I. replacing jobs, the adaptability of workers, and the nature of automation in engineering tasks.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that A.I. may replace engineers, citing conclusions drawn from ChatGPT, while others argue that engineering is too broad for such generalizations.
  • One viewpoint emphasizes that automation has historically led to job transformation rather than outright replacement, with new roles emerging as old ones fade.
  • Concerns are raised about the reliability of A.I. outputs, with participants noting that A.I. lacks judgment and can produce errors based on flawed data.
  • Some argue that while A.I. can assist in engineering tasks, human oversight remains crucial, especially in reviewing and approving designs.
  • There is a discussion about the nature of engineering work, with some suggesting that engineers inherently seek to optimize and automate their tasks.
  • Participants mention specific examples of A.I. applications, such as the LaserWeeder, which uses A.I. for agricultural tasks, highlighting the evolving landscape of job roles.
  • General A.I. is mentioned as a potential game changer, with participants expressing varying opinions on its implications for job security and efficiency.
  • Some express skepticism about the conclusions drawn from A.I. assessments, questioning the qualifications of A.I. to make such determinations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the future of engineering in relation to A.I. While some believe A.I. poses a significant threat to engineering jobs, others argue that the field is resilient and adaptable. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing views presented.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the long-term implications of A.I. on job markets, the reliability of A.I. outputs, and the adaptability of workers in response to technological changes. The discussion includes various assumptions about the nature of engineering and the role of A.I. in automating tasks.

  • #61
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I guess this will be the next Gig economy.
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  • #66
Borg said:
The beginnings of an earthquake

https://shumer.dev/something-big-is-happening
I've read a couple moderating counters to this article and as with most things the truth likely lies in the middle. That said, the middle is still extremely disruptive. My full time job is at a major tech company where I use and see AI every day and can see first hand the potential for global disruption. The next 2-3 years will be very concerning without responsible actors and societies.
 
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  • #67
Greg Bernhardt said:
I've read a couple moderating counters to this article and as with most things the truth likely lies in the middle. That said, the middle is still extremely disruptive. My full time job is at a major tech company where I use and see AI every day and can see first hand the potential for global disruption. The next 2-3 years will be very concerning without responsible actors and societies.
It is not necessary to go to the extreme where AGI and highly evolved robotics exist; long before that point we should already be noticing problems and changes in society.

The current state of society is such that your boss is more likely to be replaced by AI than you are. Robotics is not powerful enough to allow for complete replacement.
 
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  • #68
Borg said:
The beginnings of an earthquake

https://shumer.dev/something-big-is-happening
Because of the article, I decided to see what I can do with Codex on my paid ChatGPT account. It's powerful. I had some initial confusion as to how to get it going but once I did, it works very nicely. Previously with my ChatGPT account, I would upload files, copy sections of code, ask questions, get answers and then update the various files with the changes. Now I just tell it to scan the working directory that it's in, tell it what I want done and it makes all of the changes throughout the code. This is going to be interesting. :cool:
 
  • #69
Matt Shumer, CEO and cofounder of Otherside AI, wrote an essay on X a few days ago tryng to raise awareness of the progress of AI that has occurred in the last several months. It has had a surprising reaction of concern that he did not intend. He advises those who might be affected by AI to familiarize themselves with the capabilities of the latest models, especially those relevant to their work.

His essay has been critiqued by various people familiar with AI's current capabilities in the business world.

I have read that many people who use AI or heavily depend on it are excited about Agentic AIs that have recently been released.
 
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Greg Bernhardt said:
I've read a couple moderating counters to this article and as with most things the truth likely lies in the middle. That said, the middle is still extremely disruptive. My full time job is at a major tech company where I use and see AI every day and can see first hand the potential for global disruption. The next 2-3 years will be very concerning without responsible actors and societies.
Time to retrain as a plumber?
 
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  • #71
Elon Musk's comments on AI are interesting and somewhat alarming.

https://gizmodo.com/elon-musk-has-changed-his-mission-statement-2000721530
“Basically, humans will be a very tiny percentage of all intelligence in the future if current trends continue,” Musk explained. He then stammered through a sentence you’d be forgiven for missing, because it’s borderline unintelligible: “As long as, I think, there’s intelligence, ideally, also, which includes human intelligence and consciousness, propagated into the future, that’s a good thing.”

That word “ideally” seems to be the big red flag for anyone worried about Musk’s plan for humanity. Humans will be there, ideally. But that’s not a guarantee. The host pressed him on the goals of SpaceX and whether AI was a hedge against humanity dying off, or whether it mattered at all.
 
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