A non-exact nonlinear first ODE to solve

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The discussion revolves around solving a nonlinear first-order ordinary differential equation (ODE) given in the form of a differential expression. The equation presented is not exact, and participants are exploring methods to find an integrating factor to potentially solve it.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the identification of the components M and N of the differential equation and their partial derivatives. There is an exploration of the concept of integrating factors, with some questioning the validity of the proposed integrating factor and its derivation. Others express confusion regarding the steps taken to transform the equation and the reasoning behind certain methods.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing insights and questioning the original poster's approach. Some guidance has been offered regarding the integrating factor method, and there is acknowledgment of potential misinterpretations in the problem setup. However, there is no explicit consensus on the correct method to proceed.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the original poster may have misinterpreted the integrating factor method for non-exact equations and that there are established techniques for addressing such equations that involve functions of x and y separately. The original poster has indicated a resolution to their confusion independently.

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Homework Statement



Solve the following equation.

Homework Equations



( 3x2y4 + 2xy ) dx + ( 2x3y3 - x2 ) dy = 0

The Attempt at a Solution



M = ( 3xy4 + 2xy )
N = ( 2x3y3 - x2 )

∂M/∂y = 12x2y3 + 2x
∂N/∂x = 6x2y3 - 2x

Then this equation looks like that the integrating factor is (xM-yN).
IF = x3y4 + 3x2y

then the new equation would be:

(3xy^3+2)/(x^2y^3+3x)dx + (2xy^3-1)/(xy^4+3y)dy = 0

but then if we find that this new equation is exact or not, it proves that this is not exact.
If so what should I do?
Please help...

Note:
The given answer is:
x3y2 + x2/y = c
 
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Nipuna Weerasekara said:

Homework Statement



Solve the following equation.

Homework Equations



( 3x2y4 + 2xy ) dx + ( 2x3y3 - x2 ) dy = 0

The Attempt at a Solution



M = ( 3xy4 + 2xy )
The above should be ##M = 3x^2y^4 + 2xy##
Nipuna Weerasekara said:
N = ( 2x3y3 - x2 )

∂M/∂y = 12x2y3 + 2x
∂N/∂x = 6x2y3 - 2x
You have a mistake above.
If ##M = 3x^2y^4 + 2xy## then ##M_y = 12x^2y^3 + 2x##
Since My ≠ Nx, that's enough to show that the equation is not exact.

Nipuna Weerasekara said:
Then this equation looks like that the integrating factor is (xM-yN).
IF = x3y4 + 3x2y
I taught diff. equations a number of times, but this isn't a trick that I remember. Where does xM - yN come from?
Nipuna Weerasekara said:
then the new equation would be:

(3xy^3+2)/(x^2y^3+3x)dx + (2xy^3-1)/(xy^4+3y)dy = 0
I'm not following this at all. If you can find an integrating factor, you multiply both sides of the original diff. equation by it. If it really is an integrating factor, then the new equation will be exact, and you can get the solution.
Nipuna Weerasekara said:
but then if we find that this new equation is exact or not, it proves that this is not exact.
If so what should I do?
Please help...

Note:
The given answer is:
x3y2 + x2/y = c
 
LCKurtz said:
I think the OP is referring, incorrectly, to the integrating factor method for non-exact equations.
I understand that he/she was trying to come up with an integrating factor. The link below presents the usual technique to start with when you're faced with an inexact equation: seeing if a function of x (##\mu(x)##) in the PDF below, and proceeding to a function of y alone (##\nu(y)##) if the previous try didn't work. What threw me was the immediate jump to xM - yN, which as you point out, is not the integrating factor.
LCKurtz said:
I haven't worked through this problem, but the method is described in the link http://users.math.msu.edu/users/sen/math_235/lectures/lec_5.pdf on pages 3 - 5.
 
There was a misinterpretation in the question by me... I solved it by myself. Thanks for the concern.
 

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