A plate carries a charge of -5.2 μC

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The problem involves a plate with a charge of -5.2 μC and a rod with a charge of +1.8 μC, focusing on the transfer of electrons needed to equalize the charges of both objects.

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  • Participants explore the concept of charge transfer and its implications, questioning how the charges equalize and the role of electric forces. Some express confusion about the mechanics of charge transfer and the resulting charge states.

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Homework Statement


A plate carries a charge of -5.2 μC, while a rod carries a charge of +1.8 μC. How many electrons must be transferred from the plate to the rod so that both objects have the same charge?

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So I am imagining a plate and a rod touching, net charge at the touching point is 0 because of the transfer of electrons. So after a transfer of 1.8 from the rod to the plate there will be no more positive in the rod.. now there are still negatives in the plate and now the rod is completely negative. Wont the negatives then repel each other to the corner? how does neutralization happen here?
 
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You're overthinking it. Don't worry about how the transfer happens. What number is halfway in between -5.2 and +1.8 (just average them)? How much do you have to change each number by to get to that middle value? That number is in ##\mu C##. How many electrons corresponds to that many ##\mu C##?

But in answer to your direct question, after a transfer of ##1.8 \mu C## so that the plate has ##-3.4 \mu C## and the rod has ##0 \mu C##, the charge is still imbalanced, and half of the charge that's on the plate is going to transfer to the rod so that they have the same charge (under the assumptions of this problem that the charges equalize).

If you have a conductor with a net charge touching another one with no net charge, charge will transfer. There will be electric forces pushing the charge onto the neutral object, attempting to equalize the potential.
 
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RPinPA said:
You're overthinking it. Don't worry about how the transfer happens. What number is halfway in between -5.2 and +1.8 (just average them)? How much do you have to change each number by to get to that middle value? That number is in ##\mu C##. How many electrons corresponds to that many ##\mu C##?

But in answer to your direct question, after a transfer of ##1.8 \mu C## so that the
hey I was reading your second part and you cut off, can you explain??
 
RPinPA said:
You're overthinking it. Don't worry about how the transfer happens. What number is halfway in between -5.2 and +1.8 (just average them)? How much do you have to change each number by to get to that middle value? That number is in ##\mu C##. How many electrons corresponds to that many ##\mu C##?

But in answer to your direct question, after a transfer of ##1.8 \mu C## so that the plate has ##-3.4 \mu C## and the rod has ##0 \mu C##, the charge is still imbalanced, and half of the charge that's on the plate is going to transfer to the rod so that they have the same charge (under the assumptions of this problem that the charges equalize).

If you have a conductor with a net charge touching another one with no net charge, charge will transfer. There will be electric forces pushing the charge onto the neutral object, attempting to equalize the potential.
ok awsome explanation thank you
 
im getting -3.5,

(-5.2+1.8)/2 = -1.7

1.8+x = -1.7
x = -3.5
 
I don't get this problem
 
isukatphysics69 said:
im getting -3.5,

(-5.2+1.8)/2 = -1.7

1.8+x = -1.7
x = -3.5
What are the units for this answer?

What does the the problem ask for?
isukatphysics69 said:

Homework Statement


A plate carries a charge of -5.2 μC, while a rod carries a charge of +1.8 μC. How many electrons must be transferred from the plate to the rod so that both objects have the same charge?
 

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