A question about the search for normal subgroups- Conjugacy classes ?

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The discussion revolves around the properties of the group Aut(Z*_24) and its conjugacy classes, specifically in the context of demonstrating that Aut(Z*_24) is simple. The original poster expresses confusion regarding the notation and the implications of the conjugacy classes listed.

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  • Participants discuss the definition of a simple group and its relation to normal subgroups. Questions arise about the meaning of conjugacy classes and their connection to the simplicity of the group. There is also curiosity about how to compute conjugacy classes and the reasoning behind the given counts.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring definitions and relationships between concepts. Some guidance has been offered regarding the definitions of simple groups and conjugacy classes, but there is no consensus on the next steps or methods for finding conjugacy classes.

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Participants note a lack of understanding regarding the computation of conjugacy classes and the implications of having nontrivial normal subgroups. There is also mention of the specific counts of conjugacy classes and their significance in the context of the problem.

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A question about the search for normal subgroups- Conjugacy classes!?

Homework Statement



Aut(Z*_24) has Conjugacy classes of order 1, 21, 24, 24, 42 and 56.
Show that Aut(Z*_24) is simple.


Note: Aut(Z*_24) is sometimes written as U(Z_24)
Thanks for any idea or answer...


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The Attempt at a Solution



I have no idea! At first, why 24 is written 2 times?
 
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It means that it has six conjugacy classes, two of which have the order 24. For starters, what's the definition of a simple group? And how do conjugacy classes relate to that definition?
 


Simple group means, if it contains no non-trivial normal subgroups. so, for example, if a group has prime order, then it has no nontrivial normal subgroup.
and conjugacy classes means for a and b in G, there exist an element g for which,
g.a.g^(-1)=b
that means g.a=g.b
also i know that, Aut(Z*_24) has 168 elements and this is the total of this conjugacy classes. for next step, what should I do?
Actually i want to know, how can I find conjugacy classes? how did they find this number of conjugacy classes?
 


So is there perhaps a connection between the normal subgroups and conjugacy classes? In particular, what would it mean in terms of conjugacy classes, if you had a nontrivial normal subgroup?
 


I don't understand what is conjugacy classes and how to compute them.. only i know its definition.
 

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