A simple problem that's dirving me crazy (Perimeter and length of each side)

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The problem involves determining the lengths of the sides of a right triangle representing a city lot, given that the hypotenuse is 7 feet longer than one of the other sides and the perimeter is 392 feet.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to use the perimeter and Pythagorean theorem to express the sides in terms of the hypotenuse. They question whether their algebraic manipulations are correct and express confusion over obtaining inconsistent values for the hypotenuse.

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Some participants provide feedback on the original poster's algebraic expressions, suggesting corrections to the signs in the equations. There is an acknowledgment of errors in the calculations, and the discussion reflects a collaborative effort to clarify the algebra involved.

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Participants note that the discriminant of the quadratic equation derived from the problem is negative, indicating a potential issue with the setup or calculations. The original poster expresses frustration with the complexity of the problem.

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Homework Statement


A city lot has the shape of a right triangle whose hypotehenuse is 7 ft longer that one of the other sides. Perimiter of the lot is 392 ft how long is each side.


Homework Equations


P = a + b +c = 392

hypothenuse is c^2 = a^2 + b^2

so if c is 7ft longer then one of the sides (let's say b)

then b +7 = c or b = c-7

a+ c-7 +c = 392
a +2c = 399
a = 399 -2c

To find c I use

Pythogorian formula but replace a and b with their equivalent of c

(399-2c)^2 + (c-7)^2 = c^2

Is it the right way to resolve the problem? if it is, why after 4-5 attempts I keep getting different values of c or sometimes no c at all :)

If it's the right way to go

is the (399-2c)^2 + (c-7)^2 = c^2 implies...

-4c^2 + 1596c + 159201 +c^2 - 14c + 49 = c^2 ? Just to make sure I'm not missing a minus.

Thank you:)

The Attempt at a Solution


 
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Your method looks right.

phoenix20_06 said:
-4c^2 + 1596c + 159201 +c^2 - 14c + 49 = c^2 ? Just to make sure I'm not missing a minus.
This should read +4c2+...
 
okay this what I get then...
4c^2 + 1582c + 159250 = 0
or
2c^2 + 791c + 79625 = 0 if I divide everything by 2

c = -b +/- sqrt of(b^2 -4ac) and everything divided by 2a

however b^2 - 4ac is negative and I can't do a sqrt of a negative number.
What went wrong?

791^2 - 4(2)(79625) = 625681 - 637000 = -11319
 
-4c^2 + 1596c + 159201 +c^2 - 14c + 49 = c^2

There's another mistake in here: this should read 4c2-1596c+...
 
What the deuce! It's wichcraft not mathematics! I just solved it
the sides are c = 175, b = 168 and a = 49

49^2 + 168^2 = 175^2

Thank you Cristo, I think your presence in my posts make me think twice harder :)

Those minuses messed up calculations in the first place :)
 
You're welcome!
 

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