A suitable GRE verbal score for a PhD application

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the implications of a low GRE verbal score (147) for a PhD application in Physics. Participants explore the significance of the verbal section in the context of graduate admissions, sharing personal experiences and opinions on the matter.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that the verbal score is not a major factor for Physics applicants, as long as minimum requirements are met.
  • Others express concern that a low verbal score might lead to an application being dismissed without consideration of other qualifications.
  • A participant notes that the verbal section does not reflect one's ability to write scientifically, emphasizing clarity and conciseness over verbal reasoning skills.
  • One participant shares their experience of struggling with time management during the test, which may have affected their score.
  • Another participant advises checking specific schools' minimum GRE requirements to determine if retaking the test is necessary.
  • Some argue against the idea of retaking the GRE, citing financial constraints and the uncertainty of achieving a significantly higher score.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express mixed views on the importance of the verbal score, with some believing it to be inconsequential while others worry about its impact on admissions decisions. There is no consensus on whether retaking the GRE is advisable.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention varying experiences with the GRE and the potential influence of individual circumstances on performance, such as financial constraints and test-taking strategies. The discussion reflects uncertainty regarding the weight of the verbal score in the admissions process.

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Dear all,

I just finished my GRE general test yesterday, and my score in verbal reasoning is low (147). I am worried about the effects of this score on my graduate school application, but I have heard from some of my friends that the verbal section does not matter much for a Physics applicant. Still, I wish to know to what extent the 147 verbal score would affect my prospect of getting admitted into a graduate school in Physics. (My analytical writing's score is not available yet, and my quantitative score is 170.)

Sopheak
 
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I got a 146 on my verbal and I honestly don't care.

I am not an english person. That's why I did math.

I'm just going to submit mine and be done with it.
 
I took the GRE when they were still in the 200-800 scoring range...so I don't know what 147 is like. But I was also told that the verbal does not really affect your chances. As long as you pass the minimum. The professors would like to be able to clearly converse with you, that's all, they don't need you to be a great writer for physics.
 
Matterwave said:
The professors would like to be able to clearly converse with you, that's all, they don't need you to be a great writer for physics.

Scientific writing is about being clear, concise, and unambiguous. With that being said, your ability to write has exactly nothing to do with the verbal section of the GRE.
 
The 147 corresponds to a percentile rank of 33%. I know I have to exceed the cutoff scores, but I am wondering if people in charge of the admission will throw away my application right away after seeing my verbal score without looking at my other documents.
 
Do you think the 147 doesn't fairly represent your ability? Then you might want to retake it. If you think it does, why worry about what you can't change?
 
Vanadium 50 said:
Do you think the 147 doesn't fairly represent your ability? Then you might want to retake it. If you think it does, why worry about what you can't change?

During the test, I tended to read the passages back and forth, thereby wasting a lot of time. I am just not good at doing stuff with that little amount of time, and my experience in my UG program is that I always finish my assignments and homeworks right after they were assigned. This reduces my stress and in fact makes me more efficient than having limited time constraint.

Besides, the test fee is a big amount to my family as we do not live in a rich country. Anyways, thanks :)
 
That sounds like it is not likely repeating the test will produce a vastly different outcome. Given that, and your financial situation, I don't think I would bother.
 
Actually I want to give some better advice.

find out what schools you want to get into and look at the minimum requirement for the gre. if you made the min requirement then your good if you didnt then consider trying again.
 
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I don't think that advice is better.

Very few physics departments have a minimum Verbal GRE score. I am sure this is in at least part because ETS says "A cut-off score (i.e., a minimum score) should never be used as the only criterion for denial of admission or awarding of a fellowship." Of course, there are plenty of places on the internet that will tell you that school X has cutoff Y. Many of these are selling testing preparation services.

Additionally, retaking the test doesn't guarantee an increase in score, much less a substantial increase.
 

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