A Supposition of Angular Motion

In summary, the conversation discusses the idea that the angular momentum of a mass M can be equivalent to the angular momentum of the background universe spinning in the opposite direction from the center of mass M. The background's true rotation is stated to be unobservable, leading to a discussion of the implications of such a supposition. The participants debate whether the background's rotation can still be indirectly observable, and the role of a reference in gauging rotation. Finally, a request is made for a peer reviewed reference to further explore this scenario.
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Suppose that angular momentum of mass M is equivalent to the angular momentum of the background universe spinning in the opposite direction from center of mass M. Suppose that the background's true rotation is un-observable. What would be the implications of such a supposition?
 
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WCOLtd said:
Suppose that the background's true rotation is un-observable. What would be the implications of such a supposition?
If you suppose that X is unobservable then by definition it has no observable implications.
 
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X's rotation is unobservable. You can't see it spinning. Maybe you can figure out that it is in other ways.
 
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Yes. It is observable but indirectly. What I mean by "unobservable" is that you cannot see it spinning because it is the background and therefore there is no reference by which to gauge its rotation.
 
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WCOLtd said:
therefore there is no reference by which to gauge its rotation.
You don't need a reference to gauge rotation. Rotation is non inertial motion so it is not relative.
 
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In this supposition. I'd like you to suppose that it is relative and see what the implications are.
 
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Please PM me with a peer reviewed reference that describes this scenario. I will then reopen the thread for discussion of that paper.
 

1. What is "A Supposition of Angular Motion"?

"A Supposition of Angular Motion" is a scientific concept that describes the motion of an object around a fixed point, such as a pivot or axis. It is also known as rotational motion and is important in many fields of science, including physics and engineering.

2. How is angular motion different from linear motion?

Angular motion involves the rotation of an object around a fixed point, while linear motion is the movement of an object in a straight line. Angular motion is characterized by the angle, speed, and direction of rotation, while linear motion is characterized by distance, speed, and direction of movement.

3. What are some real-world examples of angular motion?

Some examples of angular motion include the rotation of the Earth around the Sun, the spinning of a top, the movement of a bicycle wheel, and the swinging of a pendulum. Many mechanical systems, such as engines and turbines, also rely on angular motion for their operation.

4. What factors affect angular motion?

The speed and direction of angular motion are affected by several factors, including the mass and shape of the rotating object, the distance from the pivot or axis of rotation, and the amount of force or torque applied to the object. Friction and air resistance can also impact the motion of a rotating object.

5. How is angular motion measured and calculated?

Angular motion is measured using units such as degrees, radians, and revolutions. It can be calculated using formulas that relate the angle, speed, and time of rotation, as well as the moment of inertia and torque of the rotating object. Advanced mathematical concepts, such as calculus, are often used to analyze and predict angular motion in complex systems.

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