A thin uniform bar, hanging, is hit by a ball. Find the angular velocity

In summary, the conversation is about finding the angular velocity of a ball and bar after a collision. The problem involves the conservation of angular momentum and the correct formula is (Ibar + Iball)ω instead of (Ibar + Iball)ω2. The correct answer is 1.38 rad/s.
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Phys121VIU
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Homework Statement


A thin, uniform metal bar, 3m long and weighing 75N, is hanging veritcally from the ceiling by a frictionless pivot. Suddenly it is struck 1.3m below the ceiling by a small 2 kg clay ball, initially traveling horizontally at 14m/s. The ball sticks to the bar

Find the angular velocity of the ball+bar just after the collision.


Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution



Angular momentum is conserved so my understanding is that

Angular momentum of the ball = angular momentum of the bar and bar

Lball = (Ibar + Iball2

(2kg)(14m/s)(1.3m) = [(1/3)(75N/9.8m/s2)(3m)2 + (2kg)(1.3m)22

so i worked it out and got ω = 1.18 rad/s

but that's not correct...I can't think of any other way to approach it
 
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Phys121VIU said:

Homework Statement


A thin, uniform metal bar, 3m long and weighing 75N, is hanging veritcally from the ceiling by a frictionless pivot. Suddenly it is struck 1.3m below the ceiling by a small 2 kg clay ball, initially traveling horizontally at 14m/s. The ball sticks to the bar

Find the angular velocity of the ball+bar just after the collision.


Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution



Angular momentum is conserved so my understanding is that

Angular momentum of the ball = angular momentum of the bar and bar

Lball = (Ibar + Iball)ω2

Are you sure that the last formula is correct?

ehild
 
  • #3
Wow..its definitely not squared..thanks:P

Found the answer..1.38rad/s!
 
  • #4
Well done !:smile:
 
  • #5
though.

Your approach is correct, however there are a few errors in your calculation. The moment of inertia of a thin uniform bar is (1/12)ML^2, not (1/3)ML^2. Also, the units for moment of inertia should be in kgm^2, not Nm^2. Additionally, the moment of inertia for a point mass (the clay ball) is simply MR^2, where R is the distance from the pivot point. So the correct equation should be:

(2kg)(14m/s)(1.3m) = [(1/12)(75kg)(3m)^2 + (2kg)(1.3m)^2]ω

Solving for ω, we get ω = 2.23 rad/s. This is the angular velocity of the ball+bar system just after the collision. Keep in mind that the ball+bar system will continue to rotate at this angular velocity until acted upon by an external force.
 

1. What is a thin uniform bar?

A thin uniform bar is a long, narrow object with a uniform mass distribution along its length. It is often used in physics problems to represent a simplified version of more complex objects.

2. What does it mean for a bar to be hanging?

A bar is considered to be hanging when it is suspended from a fixed point, such as a string or a hinge, allowing it to rotate freely.

3. What does it mean for a bar to be hit by a ball?

When a ball collides with a bar, it imparts a force on the bar, causing it to rotate around its fixed point of suspension.

4. What is angular velocity?

Angular velocity is a measure of how fast an object is rotating around a fixed axis. It is typically measured in radians per second or degrees per second.

5. How do you calculate the angular velocity of a bar after being hit by a ball?

The angular velocity of a bar after being hit by a ball can be calculated using the equation ω = v/r, where ω is the angular velocity, v is the linear velocity of the ball before the collision, and r is the distance from the point of impact to the center of mass of the bar.

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